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Privacy is a national security issue. Actively monitoring citizens, privately and publicly, and smearing the data across the US and the rest of the world is goi

Privacy is a national security issue. Actively monitoring citizens, privately and publicly, and smearing the data across the US and the rest of the world is going to prove to be a massive national vulnerability in the long run.

kube-system 6y ago
Yes, it is well established that the data being collected by social media platforms is ripe for abuse. The question is: which regulators do the social media companies answer to? Don’t forget that that national security includes other concerns outside of your personal privacy, for example: https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/05/18/report-beer-review-app-can-be-used-to-track-military-personnel-and-secret-military-locations/#411b5e6b3106 https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/05/18/repor...
- monadic2 6y ago
  That seems like missing the forest for the trees—we don't have any laws or institutions that apply well here and no legislators willing to write better ones or direct the institutions we have in any sane direction—nobody wants to turn away from this maniacal obsession with growth and be the person who killed the golden goose.
  - kube-system 6y ago
    The spectrum of privacy laws (and the underlying laws that make a right to privacy possible) around the world are a lot more broad than “Europe vs not-Europe”. Discussion here often focuses on the differences between the US and EU, but in a broader context, the US legal system is a lot ideologically closer to Western Europe than most of the world.
- wombatmobile 6y ago
  > The question is: which regulators do the social media companies answer to? That's not the question I posed, kube-system. I asked, "How would Americans be better off with TikTok in Microsoft's hands?" The issue you raise, about which regulators social media companies answer to, dismisses the conflict of interest that occurs when those regulators' align with the police departments that contract Microsoft to surveil citizens. When that happens, are American citizens better off? Clearly not, when they are being targeted by unconstitutional police actions, e.g. actions that violate the first amendment.
  - kube-system 6y ago
    ByteDance’s policy for responding to law enforcement requests is the same as Microsoft. Of all the domestic privacy issues you could have brought up, I don’t think local law enforcement is a differentiating concern.

kube-system 6y ago

Yes, it is well established that the data being collected by social media platforms is ripe for abuse. The question is: which regulators do the social media companies answer to? Don’t forget that that national security includes other concerns outside of your personal privacy, for example: https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/05/18/report-beer-review-app-can-be-used-to-track-military-personnel-and-secret-military-locations/#411b5e6b3106 https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/05/18/repor...

monadic2 6y ago
That seems like missing the forest for the trees—we don't have any laws or institutions that apply well here and no legislators willing to write better ones or direct the institutions we have in any sane direction—nobody wants to turn away from this maniacal obsession with growth and be the person who killed the golden goose.
- kube-system 6y ago
  The spectrum of privacy laws (and the underlying laws that make a right to privacy possible) around the world are a lot more broad than “Europe vs not-Europe”. Discussion here often focuses on the differences between the US and EU, but in a broader context, the US legal system is a lot ideologically closer to Western Europe than most of the world.
wombatmobile 6y ago
> The question is: which regulators do the social media companies answer to? That's not the question I posed, kube-system. I asked, "How would Americans be better off with TikTok in Microsoft's hands?" The issue you raise, about which regulators social media companies answer to, dismisses the conflict of interest that occurs when those regulators' align with the police departments that contract Microsoft to surveil citizens. When that happens, are American citizens better off? Clearly not, when they are being targeted by unconstitutional police actions, e.g. actions that violate the first amendment.
- kube-system 6y ago
  ByteDance’s policy for responding to law enforcement requests is the same as Microsoft. Of all the domestic privacy issues you could have brought up, I don’t think local law enforcement is a differentiating concern.