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So if, hypothetically, TikTok were to infer political affiliation for its 60M users, and only show the "don't forget to vote" reminder to conservatives, would y

by m0zg 6y ago

So if, hypothetically, TikTok were to infer political affiliation for its 60M users, and only show the "don't forget to vote" reminder to conservatives, would you be OK with that? Here's the scenario I'm talking about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSTHgoaVtSw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSTHgoaVtSw. They did admit that they'd prefer Biden, I'm just flipping it to show you what the problem is. We're literally talking about a company which, by virtue of being a Chinese company with significant footprint in the US, has Chinese intelligence agents on staff and can _easily_ swing the elections in ways the alleged "Russian troll farms" couldn't even dream of. Is it wise to allow such a company to operate in the US?

kelnos 6y ago
There's a difference between a random person on the internet "being ok with" something, and it being legal or illegal for a particular government to block that something. > We're literally talking about a company which ... can _easily_ swing the elections in ways the alleged "Russian troll farms" couldn't even dream of. If you have actual evidence that shows that's what they're doing, please feel free to present it. I'm generally wary of anything connected or potentially connected to the Chinese government, but I think we should have at least some baseline evidentiary standards. It's possible that Trump does have evidence of this, and if that's the case, I'd (for once) stand behind what he's doing. But the CIA at least claims they have been unable to find any evidence of wrongdoing.
- m0zg 6y ago
  > unable to find any evidence of wrongdoing It's also too early for any "wrongdoing" to occur. Late October is when I'd do it, if I were a Chinese intelligence agent looking to sabotage the re-election of the president who endorses de-coupling, in favor of the one whose crackhead son magically got to manage $1.5B in Chinese investment funds in spite of having zero experience. And after it does occur, it will be too late. Since you're going to ask for sources on Chinese money and "crackhead" comment, here they are: https://www.factcheck.org/2019/10/trumps-claims-about-hunter-biden-in-china/ https://www.factcheck.org/2019/10/trumps-claims-about-hunter... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7857001/Hunter-Bidens-Arizona-crack-pipe-crisis-comes-haunt-Arkansas-paternity-case.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7857001/Hunter-Bide...
Thorrez 6y ago
Punishing them because they could hypothetically do something sounds quite strange to me. Why not punish them for actually doing it, or for planning on doing it? There are tons of crimes I could hypothetically do, I hope I don't get punished for just being able to hypothetically do them. Secondly, what are the laws about private organizations promoting candidates? If TikTok wants to promote a candidate they should follow those laws. If they obey the laws, that should be fine. If they don't, they should be punished according to those existing laws. If the laws aren't restrictive enough, the laws should be changed.

by m0zg 6y ago

kelnos 6y ago

There's a difference between a random person on the internet "being ok with" something, and it being legal or illegal for a particular government to block that something. > We're literally talking about a company which ... can _easily_ swing the elections in ways the alleged "Russian troll farms" couldn't even dream of. If you have actual evidence that shows that's what they're doing, please feel free to present it. I'm generally wary of anything connected or potentially connected to the Chinese government, but I think we should have at least some baseline evidentiary standards. It's possible that Trump does have evidence of this, and if that's the case, I'd (for once) stand behind what he's doing. But the CIA at least claims they have been unable to find any evidence of wrongdoing.

m0zg 6y ago
> unable to find any evidence of wrongdoing It's also too early for any "wrongdoing" to occur. Late October is when I'd do it, if I were a Chinese intelligence agent looking to sabotage the re-election of the president who endorses de-coupling, in favor of the one whose crackhead son magically got to manage $1.5B in Chinese investment funds in spite of having zero experience. And after it does occur, it will be too late. Since you're going to ask for sources on Chinese money and "crackhead" comment, here they are: https://www.factcheck.org/2019/10/trumps-claims-about-hunter-biden-in-china/ https://www.factcheck.org/2019/10/trumps-claims-about-hunter... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7857001/Hunter-Bidens-Arizona-crack-pipe-crisis-comes-haunt-Arkansas-paternity-case.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7857001/Hunter-Bide...

Thorrez 6y ago

Punishing them because they could hypothetically do something sounds quite strange to me. Why not punish them for actually doing it, or for planning on doing it? There are tons of crimes I could hypothetically do, I hope I don't get punished for just being able to hypothetically do them. Secondly, what are the laws about private organizations promoting candidates? If TikTok wants to promote a candidate they should follow those laws. If they obey the laws, that should be fine. If they don't, they should be punished according to those existing laws. If the laws aren't restrictive enough, the laws should be changed.