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Netflix, Accused of Sexualizing Girls, Pulls Artwork for ‘Cuties’

20 points by tempsy 6y ago

aaron695 6y ago
Wow, this is Qanon, didn't see that coming. The frontpage of Reddit got sucked into this and a quite a few commentators. I have to admit, it was a change to see the Left being morally outraged, compared to 25 years ago when they defended movies like Kids against the conservatives, things the Left should be proud to had done. I think they are so used to following what insanity they are told is 'woke' this week, Qanon played them quite easily.
- nix23 6y ago
  >defended movies like Kids against the conservatives Ahh, that movie that shows that rape is bad and HIV is a real problem?
  - aaron695 6y ago
    Dam, WaPo didn't, there goes my theory the Left have always defended art and culture. Unless WaPo was more conservative back then. "Kids," a disturbingly voyeuristic look at adolescent promiscuity, is virtually child pornography disguised as a cautionary documentary. https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/style/longterm/movies/videos/kidsnrkempley_c029f5.htm https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/style/longterm/movies/...
    - nix23 6y ago
      >is virtually child pornography disguised as a cautionary documentary Ah damn, and we watched the movie with our teacher. Maybe the US is just different, having Cheerleaders with miniskirts and dancing like at Moulin Rouge that's ok, and children beauty contest (mostly in the conservative states)...no problem, but watching a disturbing and disgusting story like in Kids is called "child pornography". BTW, i like that critic much more: https://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/23/fashion/kids-20th-anniversary-chloe-sevigny-rosario-dawson.html https://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/23/fashion/kids-20th-anniver...
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geden 6y ago
Also in the Guardian. https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/aug/21/cuties-netflix-film-fury https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/aug/21/cuties-netflix-... The irony being that the first time director is a black woman. Threatening the ability to be subtle in art. Not a new thing - see Chris Morris 'Paedogeddon' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9frVTgoKSI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9frVTgoKSI Hope folks wake up to the manipulation going on here fairly sharpish.
bleah1000 6y ago
It's pretty clear that the artwork and the initial description of this movie was really disgusting. Regardless of the actual content of the movie, it seems like someone at Netflix might need to be visited by Chris Hanson if they thought that picture was appropriate. I think some of the outrage is that this movie seemed to be marketed to children/families, which makes the idea that the movie is criticizing the over-sexualization of children particularly ironic. I also think that some of the backlash is that if you are criticizing sexualizing children, do you need to sexualize children? I haven't seen the movie, so this might be a great critique, but if it includes lots of kids in really inappropriate situations and clothes, it would make the message of the movie feel a bit hollow. Even in the times article, it mentions that there are going to be scenes of these 11 year old girls twerking. Are the scenes designed to shock, maybe, but it would make me feel very uncomfortable because, regardless of what they intended, in the end, the movie is actually sexualizing children.
- GaryNumanVevo 6y ago
  The writer / director is a Senegalese French woman who draws on her own experiences with the culture shock of hypersexualization of kids her age in contrast to her conservative Muslim upbringing. The original screening at Sundance was well received, and the original marketing was a complete 180 from Netflix’s. That being said this smells of outrage marketing on Netflix’s behalf, albeit in very poor taste.

20 points by tempsy 6y ago

Wow, this is Qanon, didn't see that coming. The frontpage of Reddit got sucked into this and a quite a few commentators. I have to admit, it was a change to see the Left being morally outraged, compared to 25 years ago when they defended movies like Kids against the conservatives, things the Left should be proud to had done. I think they are so used to following what insanity they are told is 'woke' this week, Qanon played them quite easily.

nix23 6y ago
>defended movies like Kids against the conservatives Ahh, that movie that shows that rape is bad and HIV is a real problem?
- aaron695 6y ago
  Dam, WaPo didn't, there goes my theory the Left have always defended art and culture. Unless WaPo was more conservative back then. "Kids," a disturbingly voyeuristic look at adolescent promiscuity, is virtually child pornography disguised as a cautionary documentary. https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/style/longterm/movies/videos/kidsnrkempley_c029f5.htm https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/style/longterm/movies/...
  - nix23 6y ago
    >is virtually child pornography disguised as a cautionary documentary Ah damn, and we watched the movie with our teacher. Maybe the US is just different, having Cheerleaders with miniskirts and dancing like at Moulin Rouge that's ok, and children beauty contest (mostly in the conservative states)...no problem, but watching a disturbing and disgusting story like in Kids is called "child pornography". BTW, i like that critic much more: https://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/23/fashion/kids-20th-anniversary-chloe-sevigny-rosario-dawson.html https://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/23/fashion/kids-20th-anniver...
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geden 6y ago

Also in the Guardian. https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/aug/21/cuties-netflix-film-fury https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/aug/21/cuties-netflix-... The irony being that the first time director is a black woman. Threatening the ability to be subtle in art. Not a new thing - see Chris Morris 'Paedogeddon' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9frVTgoKSI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9frVTgoKSI Hope folks wake up to the manipulation going on here fairly sharpish.

bleah1000 6y ago

It's pretty clear that the artwork and the initial description of this movie was really disgusting. Regardless of the actual content of the movie, it seems like someone at Netflix might need to be visited by Chris Hanson if they thought that picture was appropriate. I think some of the outrage is that this movie seemed to be marketed to children/families, which makes the idea that the movie is criticizing the over-sexualization of children particularly ironic. I also think that some of the backlash is that if you are criticizing sexualizing children, do you need to sexualize children? I haven't seen the movie, so this might be a great critique, but if it includes lots of kids in really inappropriate situations and clothes, it would make the message of the movie feel a bit hollow. Even in the times article, it mentions that there are going to be scenes of these 11 year old girls twerking. Are the scenes designed to shock, maybe, but it would make me feel very uncomfortable because, regardless of what they intended, in the end, the movie is actually sexualizing children.

GaryNumanVevo 6y ago
The writer / director is a Senegalese French woman who draws on her own experiences with the culture shock of hypersexualization of kids her age in contrast to her conservative Muslim upbringing. The original screening at Sundance was well received, and the original marketing was a complete 180 from Netflix’s. That being said this smells of outrage marketing on Netflix’s behalf, albeit in very poor taste.