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I love that this is in Teen Vogue. It used to be that you'd only see this in Socialist Worker Daily or something.

riffic 6y ago
The fact that it's Teen Vogue is 100% why I chose to link this and not any other article I could Google about cop unions.
- angry_octet 6y ago
  What I find most encouraging is that they wouldn't be printing it if there wasn't a receptive audience.
  - camelite 6y ago
    Less than 4% of Teen Vogue's readership comes from actual teenagers.
- camelite 6y ago
  Less than 4% of Teen Vogue's readership comes from actual teenagers.
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kortilla 6y ago
Teenage targeted publications are actually pretty common ground for extremist viewpoints. It’s an audience pretty receptive to new ideas. Not having “adult responsibilities” nor having to really be a functioning member of society in general makes Marxism, Ayn Rand Capitalism, etc all pretty palatable and reasonable ideas (albeit normally to different cliques).
- angry_octet 6y ago
  Fox and old white man media generally seems chock full of extremist propaganda and to have a throughly receptive audience. Frankly I think you're reguritating a Fox talking point.
  - redis_mlc 6y ago
    What the GP meant was that homeowners generally don't protest in the streets because they have too much to lose. It doesn't cost a homeowner anything to watch Fox news, regardless of how extreme it is (or isn't these days.) Although ironically it's the left's identity politics that is subverting Western Civilization. Also ironic is that while BLM protests brought attention to police officer abuse, the issue is with police union power. In a previous HN post I explained why that's unlikely to be fixed because of how the power structure between DA's and police unions is constructed.
  - kortilla 6y ago
    Calling Ayn Rand Capitalism extremist is a Fox talking point now? Isn’t that channel usually associated with right wing extremism? Is it possible that you didn’t understand the point I was making and you retreated into a political tribe reaction?
    - angry_octet 6y ago
      You should re-parse that sentence, because you're misrepresenting what I wrote.
      - kortilla 6y ago
        You claimed I was regurgitating a Fox talking point. What talking point do you think that is?
        angry_octet 6y ago
        The TP I'm referring to is the oft repeated idea that young people can't coherently weigh options because they are young, have no responsibilities, don't earn money etc. That's not what I see in the young people (approx 15-25) I know. Oh and that when they are older they'll all become conservative voters of some type in the political centre, but that's another thread.
Gibbon1 6y ago
For 70 years all this stuff was deliberately suppressed. But of late the corruption and raw incompetence has become too much.

The fact that it's Teen Vogue is 100% why I chose to link this and not any other article I could Google about cop unions.

angry_octet 6y ago
What I find most encouraging is that they wouldn't be printing it if there wasn't a receptive audience.
- camelite 6y ago
  Less than 4% of Teen Vogue's readership comes from actual teenagers.
camelite 6y ago
Less than 4% of Teen Vogue's readership comes from actual teenagers.
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kortilla 6y ago

Teenage targeted publications are actually pretty common ground for extremist viewpoints. It’s an audience pretty receptive to new ideas. Not having “adult responsibilities” nor having to really be a functioning member of society in general makes Marxism, Ayn Rand Capitalism, etc all pretty palatable and reasonable ideas (albeit normally to different cliques).

angry_octet 6y ago
Fox and old white man media generally seems chock full of extremist propaganda and to have a throughly receptive audience. Frankly I think you're reguritating a Fox talking point.
- redis_mlc 6y ago
  What the GP meant was that homeowners generally don't protest in the streets because they have too much to lose. It doesn't cost a homeowner anything to watch Fox news, regardless of how extreme it is (or isn't these days.) Although ironically it's the left's identity politics that is subverting Western Civilization. Also ironic is that while BLM protests brought attention to police officer abuse, the issue is with police union power. In a previous HN post I explained why that's unlikely to be fixed because of how the power structure between DA's and police unions is constructed.
- kortilla 6y ago
  Calling Ayn Rand Capitalism extremist is a Fox talking point now? Isn’t that channel usually associated with right wing extremism? Is it possible that you didn’t understand the point I was making and you retreated into a political tribe reaction?
  - angry_octet 6y ago
    You should re-parse that sentence, because you're misrepresenting what I wrote.
    - kortilla 6y ago
      You claimed I was regurgitating a Fox talking point. What talking point do you think that is?
      - angry_octet 6y ago
        The TP I'm referring to is the oft repeated idea that young people can't coherently weigh options because they are young, have no responsibilities, don't earn money etc. That's not what I see in the young people (approx 15-25) I know. Oh and that when they are older they'll all become conservative voters of some type in the political centre, but that's another thread.

Gibbon1 6y ago

For 70 years all this stuff was deliberately suppressed. But of late the corruption and raw incompetence has become too much.