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This was a major part of the worldbuilding behind in Deus Ex: Human Revolution, which came out back in 2011. Now I'm curious what papers Eidos Montreal's write

This was a major part of the worldbuilding behind in Deus Ex: Human Revolution, which came out back in 2011. Now I'm curious what papers Eidos Montreal's writers were working from when they wrote it...

delecti 6y ago
Somewhat different, as Neuropozyne was an immunosuppressant that needed to be taken regularly, and this is a (theoretically) permanent coating on the implant.
- throwanem 6y ago
  There was specific mention made of PEDOT's use being a major and necessary step in making augmentations possible, specifically because it is a conductive and biocompatible polymer. For example: https://deusex.fandom.com/wiki/Neural_Interface_Protocols:_The_PEDOT_Revolution https://deusex.fandom.com/wiki/Neural_Interface_Protocols:_T...
  - delecti 6y ago
    Huh! I stand happily corrected. I must not have brushed past that piece of in-game lore.
    - throwanem 6y ago
      I recall it being fairly easy to miss!
      - Alekhine 6y ago
        There was quite a bit of lore in that game. You could do a fair bit of reading if you cared enough.
        throwanem 6y ago
        Just as with its predecessor. Granted, I collected conspiracy theories in high school so DX had nothing novel for me in that regard, but it was still a lot of fun to laugh and nod along.
Alekhine 6y ago
I noticed that too, having recently re-played that game. I never would have thought that was based on actual scientific research.
- throwanem 6y ago
  Nor I! And now I'm wondering, if a game design studio knew about this stuff a decade ago, why are we now seeing it presented as a revolutionary new breakthrough? I wonder if the possibility was recognized a while back, and what's new is an apparently significant step toward realization, while we're only seeing the use of PEDOT in implants presented as a totally new concept because we're seeing it refracted through the rather cracked and dirty lens of popular science reporting.
  - Alekhine 6y ago
    That's close to my thinking. I doubt the researchers came up with PEDOT out of nothing, or maybe they did and they're rediscovering some ideas. Perhaps it was considered a more fringe or exploratory idea to use PEDOT back in the 2000s, so it didn't attract much funding, but the writers for Deus Ex found some papers and thought it would make for good sci-fi. And it has, since we're seeing an article today on it's viability.
Barrin92 6y ago
ha, first thing that sprung to my mind immediately was "PEDOT clusters, I've heard that before". One of my favourite games of all time. Also very crazy when you go and read all the ebooks on future political conflict there's some scary accurate ones in there about rise of terrorism in the ME, secessionism and polarisation in the US and wildfires ravaging Australia https://deusex.fandom.com/wiki/Global_Politics_Review_(2026_Edition) https://deusex.fandom.com/wiki/Global_Politics_Review_(2026_...

delecti 6y ago

Somewhat different, as Neuropozyne was an immunosuppressant that needed to be taken regularly, and this is a (theoretically) permanent coating on the implant.

throwanem 6y ago
There was specific mention made of PEDOT's use being a major and necessary step in making augmentations possible, specifically because it is a conductive and biocompatible polymer. For example: https://deusex.fandom.com/wiki/Neural_Interface_Protocols:_The_PEDOT_Revolution https://deusex.fandom.com/wiki/Neural_Interface_Protocols:_T...
- delecti 6y ago
  Huh! I stand happily corrected. I must not have brushed past that piece of in-game lore.
  - throwanem 6y ago
    I recall it being fairly easy to miss!
    - Alekhine 6y ago
      There was quite a bit of lore in that game. You could do a fair bit of reading if you cared enough.
      - throwanem 6y ago
        Just as with its predecessor. Granted, I collected conspiracy theories in high school so DX had nothing novel for me in that regard, but it was still a lot of fun to laugh and nod along.

Alekhine 6y ago

I noticed that too, having recently re-played that game. I never would have thought that was based on actual scientific research.

throwanem 6y ago
Nor I! And now I'm wondering, if a game design studio knew about this stuff a decade ago, why are we now seeing it presented as a revolutionary new breakthrough? I wonder if the possibility was recognized a while back, and what's new is an apparently significant step toward realization, while we're only seeing the use of PEDOT in implants presented as a totally new concept because we're seeing it refracted through the rather cracked and dirty lens of popular science reporting.
- Alekhine 6y ago
  That's close to my thinking. I doubt the researchers came up with PEDOT out of nothing, or maybe they did and they're rediscovering some ideas. Perhaps it was considered a more fringe or exploratory idea to use PEDOT back in the 2000s, so it didn't attract much funding, but the writers for Deus Ex found some papers and thought it would make for good sci-fi. And it has, since we're seeing an article today on it's viability.

Barrin92 6y ago

ha, first thing that sprung to my mind immediately was "PEDOT clusters, I've heard that before". One of my favourite games of all time. Also very crazy when you go and read all the ebooks on future political conflict there's some scary accurate ones in there about rise of terrorism in the ME, secessionism and polarisation in the US and wildfires ravaging Australia https://deusex.fandom.com/wiki/Global_Politics_Review_(2026_Edition) https://deusex.fandom.com/wiki/Global_Politics_Review_(2026_...