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Dark matter is going away, regardless, because it is not necessary to explain galaxy rotation curves. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL0ewiwqoTw https://www.yo

Dark matter is going away, regardless, because it is not necessary to explain galaxy rotation curves. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL0ewiwqoTw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL0ewiwqoTw Dark matter was always just a way to fudge what was observed. It is hard to believe most physicists, astronomers and cosmologists still believe in and are still looking for something that never existed.

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dwaltrip 6y ago
My understanding is that MOND is essentially dead at this point and that there aren't any other promising alternative theories left on the table. I enjoyed a podcast on the topic by the highly respected physicist Sean Carroll (along with his guest, MIT physicist Lina Necib). It was very interesting and insightful. They cover in-depth why we are so confident that dark matter is a thing that exists. Here's a link to it: https://www.preposterousuniverse.com/podcast/2020/05/11/96-lina-necib-on-what-and-where-the-dark-matter-is/ https://www.preposterousuniverse.com/podcast/2020/05/11/96-l...
- catmistake 6y ago
  Simulation in video I linked is not MOND. Dark Matter is postulated due to observations of galaxies in isolation. BUT galaxies are not gravitationally isolated. They gravitationally affected by all the other galaxies in their neighborhood. The video and simulation is pretty straight forward. Dark Matter is simply unnecessary to explain galaxy rotation curves.
  - dwaltrip 6y ago
    Even if you are correct about the galaxy rotation curves -- which everything I've read and heard leads to me believe is rather unlikely -- those curves are only one of several pieces of evicence that point to the existence of dark matter. The wikipedia page list many of these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter#Observational_evidence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter#Observational_evid... I only mentioned MOND as it is one of the more widely-known plausible alternatives that have been pursued.
    - catmistake 6y ago
      And I and the video creators are only claiming dark matter is not needed to explain galaxy rotation curves. Whatever other spaghetti lumped into the need for dark matter, have at it... but galaxy rotation curves are explained quite neatly looking at two things: 1) dark matter was initially postulated and never reexamined because galaxies were observed as gravitationally isolated and 2) when not unnaturally gravitationally isolating galaxies from their neighborhood group, the rotation curves make precisely exact and perfect sense
8bitsrule 6y ago
When archeologists don't know what something was, they call it a 'temple'. Dark matter is cosmology's version of that.

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dwaltrip 6y ago

My understanding is that MOND is essentially dead at this point and that there aren't any other promising alternative theories left on the table. I enjoyed a podcast on the topic by the highly respected physicist Sean Carroll (along with his guest, MIT physicist Lina Necib). It was very interesting and insightful. They cover in-depth why we are so confident that dark matter is a thing that exists. Here's a link to it: https://www.preposterousuniverse.com/podcast/2020/05/11/96-lina-necib-on-what-and-where-the-dark-matter-is/ https://www.preposterousuniverse.com/podcast/2020/05/11/96-l...

catmistake 6y ago
Simulation in video I linked is not MOND. Dark Matter is postulated due to observations of galaxies in isolation. BUT galaxies are not gravitationally isolated. They gravitationally affected by all the other galaxies in their neighborhood. The video and simulation is pretty straight forward. Dark Matter is simply unnecessary to explain galaxy rotation curves.
- dwaltrip 6y ago
  Even if you are correct about the galaxy rotation curves -- which everything I've read and heard leads to me believe is rather unlikely -- those curves are only one of several pieces of evicence that point to the existence of dark matter. The wikipedia page list many of these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter#Observational_evidence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter#Observational_evid... I only mentioned MOND as it is one of the more widely-known plausible alternatives that have been pursued.
  - catmistake 6y ago
    And I and the video creators are only claiming dark matter is not needed to explain galaxy rotation curves. Whatever other spaghetti lumped into the need for dark matter, have at it... but galaxy rotation curves are explained quite neatly looking at two things: 1) dark matter was initially postulated and never reexamined because galaxies were observed as gravitationally isolated and 2) when not unnaturally gravitationally isolating galaxies from their neighborhood group, the rotation curves make precisely exact and perfect sense

8bitsrule 6y ago

When archeologists don't know what something was, they call it a 'temple'. Dark matter is cosmology's version of that.