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Yeah, I meant per developer. Wires crossed. But it certainly doesn't matter what each engineer is paid. Apple has 20 million registered developers. [Edit: And

Yeah, I meant per developer. Wires crossed. But it certainly doesn't matter what each engineer is paid. Apple has 20 million registered developers. [Edit: And let's say a third of them pay that fee, which is admittedly probably a stretch. The finer details are not my point here other than to say here's a bunch of money that comes in no matter what] I don't care what those developers are making: that's serious income right there. If Apple think they are entitled to more, that's their problem, but don't act like they're making any kind of sacrifice here, and for fuck's sake people need to stop trying to convince themselves that Apple are their friends.

cwhiz 6y ago
It’s not $99 per developer, either. https://developer.apple.com/support/purchase-activation/ https://developer.apple.com/support/purchase-activation/
LeonB 6y ago
20 million * $99 certainly is real money. For a popular income generating app, the $99 will make an insignificant impact on the marginal cost. But the vast vast majority of apps are not in that category, and the $99 does have an impact.
- christoph 6y ago
  Also, the enterprise accounts are $299 and I imagine other than the overhead of the initial on-boarding checks, these generally have pretty low overheads as the enterprise signed apps go through no review process.
- wolco 6y ago
  It limits the types of apps found in iOS.
  - hombre_fatal 6y ago
    And it limits spam.
ksec 6y ago
The latest figure is now 23 million developers. I often wonder how they count those developers numbers if it was not paid Apple Developer programme.
JimDabell 6y ago
It still seems like you’re confused about what’s being paid here. There is no per seat / per developer / per engineer fee. "A developer" in this context means an individual person, not an entire organisation. An organisation pays $99/yr to publish on the App Store. That covers all their developers, whether they have one or a hundred. In addition to that, you don’t have to pay anything to be a registered developer. It’s free to register as a developer. You pay the fee to publish on the App Store. Apple having "20 million registered developers" doesn’t translate into the vast sum of money you seem to think it does. The income comes from the number of organisations publishing on the App Store, which is surely far lower than 20 million considering there’s an order of magnitude fewer apps in the App Store than that and publishers can publish many more than a single app with their account.
scarface74 6y ago
A third of $2 billion is serious revenue for a company that made $260 billion and that is worth over two trillion. The $99 is not per developer, it’s per business. It’s not about Apple being anyone’s friends. It’s about being logical.

cwhiz 6y ago

It’s not $99 per developer, either. https://developer.apple.com/support/purchase-activation/ https://developer.apple.com/support/purchase-activation/

LeonB 6y ago

20 million * $99 certainly is real money. For a popular income generating app, the $99 will make an insignificant impact on the marginal cost. But the vast vast majority of apps are not in that category, and the $99 does have an impact.

christoph 6y ago
Also, the enterprise accounts are $299 and I imagine other than the overhead of the initial on-boarding checks, these generally have pretty low overheads as the enterprise signed apps go through no review process.
wolco 6y ago
It limits the types of apps found in iOS.
- hombre_fatal 6y ago
  And it limits spam.

ksec 6y ago

The latest figure is now 23 million developers. I often wonder how they count those developers numbers if it was not paid Apple Developer programme.

JimDabell 6y ago

It still seems like you’re confused about what’s being paid here. There is no per seat / per developer / per engineer fee. "A developer" in this context means an individual person, not an entire organisation. An organisation pays $99/yr to publish on the App Store. That covers all their developers, whether they have one or a hundred. In addition to that, you don’t have to pay anything to be a registered developer. It’s free to register as a developer. You pay the fee to publish on the App Store. Apple having "20 million registered developers" doesn’t translate into the vast sum of money you seem to think it does. The income comes from the number of organisations publishing on the App Store, which is surely far lower than 20 million considering there’s an order of magnitude fewer apps in the App Store than that and publishers can publish many more than a single app with their account.

scarface74 6y ago

A third of $2 billion is serious revenue for a company that made $260 billion and that is worth over two trillion. The $99 is not per developer, it’s per business. It’s not about Apple being anyone’s friends. It’s about being logical.