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Read the emails. "We hope that Apple will also make these options equally available to all iOS developers" https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/218

by _qulr 6y ago

Read the emails. "We hope that Apple will also make these options equally available to all iOS developers" https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/21807251/epic_apple_emails.pdf https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/21807251/e... This was never a "negotiation". It's pretty clear from the beginning that both Epic and Apple were writing their emails for public consumption, not to each other. Epic knew Apple wouldn't give in, and Epic wanted to sue Apple from the beginning.

_qulr 6y ago
"Subject: Consumer Choice & Competition" They might as well have made it "Subject: Antitrust" That email would have been a pretty rude opening for someone looking for a sweetheart special deal. Not "nice" at all.
nodamage 6y ago
It is somewhat amusing that Tim Sweeney complains that Apple's response came from their legal team when it is pretty obvious his original email was not written in good faith and was obviously written for PR purposes.
SmartestUnknown 6y ago
"we will understand that Apple is not willing to make the changes necessary to allow us to provide Android customers with the option of choosing their app store and payment processing system." Did they intend to write iOS there? That's a pretty big typo in such an important email.
- _qulr 6y ago
  It's wild that there were not 20 people proofreading it beforehand. Ah, to be a billionaire running a private company.
Youden 6y ago
> It's pretty clear from the beginning that both Epic and Apple were writing their emails for public consumption I don't know if you've worked in a large company but it's fairly typical guidance that all emails be written assuming that they could be made public. The guidance I was given was "always assume what you're writing could end up on the front of the New York Times".
- _qulr 6y ago
  > all emails be written assuming that they could be made public That's not what I meant though. I meant that the emails were making arguments specifically targeted at the public and/or the courts. If you viewed the emails as Epic and Apple having a conversation with each other and trying to negotiate or convince the other, they'd be totally ridiculous. Epic made a jerk cold opening, and Apple gave a pointless lecture in response. This wasn't a conversation, it was a debate. The emails were essentially opening arguments in a court case.

by _qulr 6y ago

_qulr 6y ago

"Subject: Consumer Choice & Competition" They might as well have made it "Subject: Antitrust" That email would have been a pretty rude opening for someone looking for a sweetheart special deal. Not "nice" at all.

nodamage 6y ago

It is somewhat amusing that Tim Sweeney complains that Apple's response came from their legal team when it is pretty obvious his original email was not written in good faith and was obviously written for PR purposes.

SmartestUnknown 6y ago

"we will understand that Apple is not willing to make the changes necessary to allow us to provide Android customers with the option of choosing their app store and payment processing system." Did they intend to write iOS there? That's a pretty big typo in such an important email.

_qulr 6y ago
It's wild that there were not 20 people proofreading it beforehand. Ah, to be a billionaire running a private company.

Youden 6y ago

> It's pretty clear from the beginning that both Epic and Apple were writing their emails for public consumption I don't know if you've worked in a large company but it's fairly typical guidance that all emails be written assuming that they could be made public. The guidance I was given was "always assume what you're writing could end up on the front of the New York Times".

_qulr 6y ago
> all emails be written assuming that they could be made public That's not what I meant though. I meant that the emails were making arguments specifically targeted at the public and/or the courts. If you viewed the emails as Epic and Apple having a conversation with each other and trying to negotiate or convince the other, they'd be totally ridiculous. Epic made a jerk cold opening, and Apple gave a pointless lecture in response. This wasn't a conversation, it was a debate. The emails were essentially opening arguments in a court case.