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> on your point about "emancipation of the future generation." There will never be such a thing... Agree on your other points, but disagree on this one. I thin

> on your point about "emancipation of the future generation." There will never be such a thing... Agree on your other points, but disagree on this one. I think such "emancipation" of the young at least partially has happened in the developed countries (although it is rarely talked about in terms I describe it). It was enabled first by modern education (kids spending more time with their peers grouped by age and being taught arts and sciences in school as prescribed by government standards and not by their parents), and second by the spread of communication technologies (first by television and mass media, then by the Internet and the cell phones). I don't think it has fully happened though because many important (from my perspective) things such as personal finance management, political awareness etc. are not taught to high school-level students assuming they are either "too young," or leaving that area for their parents to teach, which ultimately contributes to much more financial and political weight being wielded by the older generation. See modern Japan for an example why too much power in the hands of the older generation may not be desirable.

sudont 16y ago
You've got a good point, however I think the lengthening and restructuring of adolescence is being counteracted by the disenfranchisement of the youth: by the time that someone is old enough to have any power to change things, they've been steeped in the culture long enough to have accepted it. Every generation is rebellious in youth, and conservative in age. The problem is that the lengthening of youth means that it's easier for the ruling gerontocracy to remember the pathways to rebellious ideology, and board that up.
- bluekeybox 16y ago
  > Every generation is rebellious in youth, and conservative in age That's a common thing to say, but it only touches upon appearances. What does the older generation have to rebel against if it is already its own source of authority? On the other hand, as soon as the 14-year olds develop their own source of authority separate from that of their parents, teachers, etc., they are labeled as unstable psychotic teens and measures are taken to make them conform. Being a Nietzschian, I am strongly of an opinion that, "once a rebel, always a rebel," and it may well be that the baby-boomer generation will have set the mark for generational rebellion that will not be surpassed by their children or grand children.

sudont 16y ago

You've got a good point, however I think the lengthening and restructuring of adolescence is being counteracted by the disenfranchisement of the youth: by the time that someone is old enough to have any power to change things, they've been steeped in the culture long enough to have accepted it. Every generation is rebellious in youth, and conservative in age. The problem is that the lengthening of youth means that it's easier for the ruling gerontocracy to remember the pathways to rebellious ideology, and board that up.

bluekeybox 16y ago
> Every generation is rebellious in youth, and conservative in age That's a common thing to say, but it only touches upon appearances. What does the older generation have to rebel against if it is already its own source of authority? On the other hand, as soon as the 14-year olds develop their own source of authority separate from that of their parents, teachers, etc., they are labeled as unstable psychotic teens and measures are taken to make them conform. Being a Nietzschian, I am strongly of an opinion that, "once a rebel, always a rebel," and it may well be that the baby-boomer generation will have set the mark for generational rebellion that will not be surpassed by their children or grand children.