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You are right of course, just tried to be concise with the description - it's basically how we always explained it to the players back then. A Java or Python co

You are right of course, just tried to be concise with the description - it's basically how we always explained it to the players back then. A Java or Python comparison was not possible at that time - both did not even exist at the time while I was programming on an LPMud driver. It is a pity LPC4/µlpc/Pike did not gain more mainstream acceptance after its early success with Roxen, even installing it was a pain last I tried.

em-bee 6y ago
A Java or Python comparison was not possible at that time - both did not even exist at the time hah, good point. yeah, roxen the company missed a window of opportunity there to promote pike when they hired the wrong type of management and fired hubbe, pikes creator. but i don't want to get into politics. what's your trouble with installing pike? i have pike running on most of my machines and don't remember any serious issues. i do install from source usually though. i am not using roxen but a different platform also written in pike called sTeam or open-steam, which incidently is a web development and object storage platform designed like a MUD.
- warpspin 6y ago
  It was already a while ago, stumbled across the hand coded i386 assembler in, if I recall correctly, nettle at that time. On a later attempt, getting the mysql driver into the thing was a pain on my Mac. It's not that it did not work with some debugging experience, just that each and every time I install it, something else is broken on first attempt. And now, recently, SWIG removed Pike support, bringing future trouble to the one project we have running internally at our company based on Pike, as that used SWIG for bindings to some other third-party C software, so we can never update that again to a newer SWIG version without rewriting that stuff.
  - em-bee 6y ago
    oh bummer. writing native c bindings for pike is not to hard though. maybe that is an option.

em-bee 6y ago

A Java or Python comparison was not possible at that time - both did not even exist at the time hah, good point. yeah, roxen the company missed a window of opportunity there to promote pike when they hired the wrong type of management and fired hubbe, pikes creator. but i don't want to get into politics. what's your trouble with installing pike? i have pike running on most of my machines and don't remember any serious issues. i do install from source usually though. i am not using roxen but a different platform also written in pike called sTeam or open-steam, which incidently is a web development and object storage platform designed like a MUD.

warpspin 6y ago
It was already a while ago, stumbled across the hand coded i386 assembler in, if I recall correctly, nettle at that time. On a later attempt, getting the mysql driver into the thing was a pain on my Mac. It's not that it did not work with some debugging experience, just that each and every time I install it, something else is broken on first attempt. And now, recently, SWIG removed Pike support, bringing future trouble to the one project we have running internally at our company based on Pike, as that used SWIG for bindings to some other third-party C software, so we can never update that again to a newer SWIG version without rewriting that stuff.
- em-bee 6y ago
  oh bummer. writing native c bindings for pike is not to hard though. maybe that is an option.