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Lol. Except no Russian ever would say "drovorub". It's either "drovokol" (firewood + chop) or "lesorub" (wood + cut). Seems like only Ukranians say "drovorub".

throw1234651234 6y ago
"Seems like only Ukranians say "drovorub"." How did you come up with that bit of fantasy?
- fuoqi 6y ago
  Here is an Ukrainian wiki page describing Malevich's painting "Woodcutter": https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Дроворуб https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Дроворуб > Drovorub (rus. Drovosek) Here is also a wiktionary page for "drovorub": https://ru.wiktionary.org/wiki/дроворуб https://ru.wiktionary.org/wiki/дроворуб It clearly identifies this word as Ukrainian.
  - throw1234651234 6y ago
    Never heard it used, but fair enough.
pandaman 6y ago
Also could be "drovosek". But you need to understand that GRU officers are so obsessed with America that they practice their English all the time and their Russian becomes neglected because of that. Look at the API they designed - not a single Russian word or a misused English word! They probably achieve this by beating you up if you say anything in Russian in the office as seen in the documentary "Americans".
anonymfus 6y ago
You know regional differences exist? http://az.lib.ru/m/maminsibirjak_d/text_1004.shtml http://az.lib.ru/m/maminsibirjak_d/text_1004.shtml I am from Moscow, I had relatives from Ryazan and Verholensk, for me drovokol is a specialised axe for splitting firewood, lesorub (and it's forest+chop, not wood, wood is only called les by people who sell it, we buy drevesina) is a person who cuts trees in the forest as a job, drovosek is a person who cuts trees for firewood as a job, drovoseksual is a person sexually attracted to trees, and drovorub sounds like a word that somebody both from Verholensk and Ryazan could say.
- anonymfus 6y ago
  Thinking about it more, trying to recall conversations with my father and actually reading the story I linked above, I feel that the difference between drovosek and drovorub is that drovosek's job is in the beginning of the process of turning trees into firewood, and drovorub is in the end. So drovosek turns trees into the firewood, and drovorub makes firewood into a proper size.
mci 6y ago
While I upvoted your native insight regarding present-day language and I agree that the name is stupid, I can nitpickingly Ctrl+F "дроворуб", explained already in the 19th century as an obsolete or Siberian word, in the "ДРОВА" entry of Dahl's dictionary: http://slovardalja.net/word.php?wordid=7571 http://slovardalja.net/word.php?wordid=7571
Razengan 6y ago
> Lol. Except no Russian ever would say "drovorub". When an authoritative statement starts off like that there’s a high chance it’s misinformation or FUD, as corrected in other replies.
zoomablemind 6y ago
> [... “Re: malware name ‘Drovorub,’ which as @NSACyber points out translates directly as ‘woodcutter,’” Alperovitch, a co-founder and former CTO of security firm CrowdStrike, wrote on Twitter. “However, more importantly, ‘Drova’ is slang in Russian for ‘drivers,’ as in kernel drivers. So the name likely was chosen to mean “(security) driver slayer." ...]: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2020/08/nsa-and-fbi-warn-that-new-linux-malware-threatens-national-security/ https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2020/08/nsa-a...
- aleksandrm 6y ago
  First thing that came to my mind was woodcutter = logger.
averros 6y ago
That word sounds very strange to a native Russian speaker (like myself). drovokol, drovosek, lesorub are all actual Russian words. "drovorub" is Ukrainian.

throw1234651234 6y ago

"Seems like only Ukranians say "drovorub"." How did you come up with that bit of fantasy?

fuoqi 6y ago
Here is an Ukrainian wiki page describing Malevich's painting "Woodcutter": https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Дроворуб https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Дроворуб > Drovorub (rus. Drovosek) Here is also a wiktionary page for "drovorub": https://ru.wiktionary.org/wiki/дроворуб https://ru.wiktionary.org/wiki/дроворуб It clearly identifies this word as Ukrainian.
- throw1234651234 6y ago
  Never heard it used, but fair enough.

pandaman 6y ago

Also could be "drovosek". But you need to understand that GRU officers are so obsessed with America that they practice their English all the time and their Russian becomes neglected because of that. Look at the API they designed - not a single Russian word or a misused English word! They probably achieve this by beating you up if you say anything in Russian in the office as seen in the documentary "Americans".

anonymfus 6y ago

You know regional differences exist? http://az.lib.ru/m/maminsibirjak_d/text_1004.shtml http://az.lib.ru/m/maminsibirjak_d/text_1004.shtml I am from Moscow, I had relatives from Ryazan and Verholensk, for me drovokol is a specialised axe for splitting firewood, lesorub (and it's forest+chop, not wood, wood is only called les by people who sell it, we buy drevesina) is a person who cuts trees in the forest as a job, drovosek is a person who cuts trees for firewood as a job, drovoseksual is a person sexually attracted to trees, and drovorub sounds like a word that somebody both from Verholensk and Ryazan could say.

anonymfus 6y ago
Thinking about it more, trying to recall conversations with my father and actually reading the story I linked above, I feel that the difference between drovosek and drovorub is that drovosek's job is in the beginning of the process of turning trees into firewood, and drovorub is in the end. So drovosek turns trees into the firewood, and drovorub makes firewood into a proper size.

mci 6y ago

While I upvoted your native insight regarding present-day language and I agree that the name is stupid, I can nitpickingly Ctrl+F "дроворуб", explained already in the 19th century as an obsolete or Siberian word, in the "ДРОВА" entry of Dahl's dictionary: http://slovardalja.net/word.php?wordid=7571 http://slovardalja.net/word.php?wordid=7571

Razengan 6y ago

> Lol. Except no Russian ever would say "drovorub". When an authoritative statement starts off like that there’s a high chance it’s misinformation or FUD, as corrected in other replies.

zoomablemind 6y ago

> [... “Re: malware name ‘Drovorub,’ which as @NSACyber points out translates directly as ‘woodcutter,’” Alperovitch, a co-founder and former CTO of security firm CrowdStrike, wrote on Twitter. “However, more importantly, ‘Drova’ is slang in Russian for ‘drivers,’ as in kernel drivers. So the name likely was chosen to mean “(security) driver slayer." ...]: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2020/08/nsa-and-fbi-warn-that-new-linux-malware-threatens-national-security/ https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2020/08/nsa-a...

aleksandrm 6y ago
First thing that came to my mind was woodcutter = logger.

averros 6y ago

That word sounds very strange to a native Russian speaker (like myself). drovokol, drovosek, lesorub are all actual Russian words. "drovorub" is Ukrainian.