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> 2. Credit card is required in case you want to immediately scale up, and also, used as anti fraud as depending on the card used, and address is used to judge

> 2. Credit card is required in case you want to immediately scale up, and also, used as anti fraud as depending on the card used, and address is used to judge you as a customer and whether or not you should be disabled immediately upon account creation. That's not what MS says the credit card is for (edit: which doesn't mean they aren't using it the way you explained they do): > We ask for your credit card number to verify your identity and to keep out spam and bots. You won’t be charged unless you upgrade. They don't want me because of my CC (I specifically want a pre-paid CC I can put money on as I need it and can never be overcharged) because my CC can't be easily charged in case I forget to cancel the service. Amazon, PSN store, paypal, online clothing store, pro and non pro pc parts store, etc. are all fine with this card. edit: I understand Azure is a recurring payment with potential upcost at some point or another and that the examples I gave are one time payment but then they really should find a way to let me try their stuff for free as they say they want or just stop giving me resources if the card is declined.

rootsudo 6y ago
Fraud, and verify identity kinda go hand in hand. The type of credit card has high fraud activity. Remember, it is to stop bad actors from using azure services for phishing, tricky things, etc (since a default instance w/ IIS, or any web service will literally be on windows.net.) Anti-fraud == verify identity.
- johnchristopher 6y ago
  > Anti-fraud == verify identity. That card has my whole name on it and the bank has a trail of everything I do with it. MS also now have a verified phone number and can see they both come from the same country. > Remember, it is to stop bad actors from using azure services for phishing, tricky things, etc (since a default instance w/ IIS, or any web service will literally be on windows.net.) Nothing prevents me from doing that with a regular credit card. Nothing prevents them from shutting down services/instances that break their ToS. How convenient for them the only way to try out their free offer is to give them the ability to withdraw money from me.

rootsudo 6y ago

Fraud, and verify identity kinda go hand in hand. The type of credit card has high fraud activity. Remember, it is to stop bad actors from using azure services for phishing, tricky things, etc (since a default instance w/ IIS, or any web service will literally be on windows.net.) Anti-fraud == verify identity.

johnchristopher 6y ago
> Anti-fraud == verify identity. That card has my whole name on it and the bank has a trail of everything I do with it. MS also now have a verified phone number and can see they both come from the same country. > Remember, it is to stop bad actors from using azure services for phishing, tricky things, etc (since a default instance w/ IIS, or any web service will literally be on windows.net.) Nothing prevents me from doing that with a regular credit card. Nothing prevents them from shutting down services/instances that break their ToS. How convenient for them the only way to try out their free offer is to give them the ability to withdraw money from me.