It is unusual, but it does happen. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_engagements_of_the_Gulf_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_engagements_of_the_Gulf_Wa..

It is unusual, but it does happen. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_engagements_of_the_Gulf_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_engagements_of_the_Gulf_Wa... There have been attempts to make fighters (F-4) without guns as that was considered obsolete by military middle management (pentagon), but then they had to add them later because actual combat showed it not to be the case. In fairly recent engagements between F-15s and Mig-25s/29s - dogfights with guns have occurred and were decisive. You don't always get to detect threats beyond visual range and shoot missiles. For a more in-depth account to get an idea of how ROE (rules of engagement), and actual conditions play into these scenarios: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/35765/confessions-of-an-f-15-eagle-driver-with-three-mig-kills https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/35765/confessions-of-a...