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Just so you know, it appears you've been shadow banned. No idea why. I would suggest joining lobste.rs, an HN clone built out of frustration of HN's lack of tra

by traes 6y ago

Just so you know, it appears you've been shadow banned. No idea why. I would suggest joining lobste.rs, an HN clone built out of frustration of HN's lack of transparency on banning.

anonymoushn 6y ago
It appears that the procedure to sign up is to go to IRC and ask for an invite.
- speps 6y ago
  The point is also to vouch for someone when an invite is sent. At least in my mind, as in it's officially done, if the invitee misbehaves, it's kind of the responsibility of the inviter. Every profile has who invited who.
  - zelphirkalt 6y ago
    Then how does the inviter know, that they can vouch for the invitee? Perhaps no one there knows me. Why would anyone vouch for someone they don't know? Wouldn't that make vouching a useless hurdle?
    - rlwinm 6y ago
      > Then how does the inviter know, that they can vouch for the invitee? AFAIK you aren't accountable for your invitees on a day-to-day basis. It just reflects poorly on you if you invite many poorly behaved people - this isn't substantially different from everyday life. > Perhaps no one there knows me. Why would anyone vouch for someone they don't know? Some people do invite everyone who asks. They can have their invite rights disabled or in extreme cases be banned from the site. This is relatively rare. You can see examples of this at https://lobste.rs/moderations?moderator=%28All%29&what%5Busers%5D=users https://lobste.rs/moderations?moderator=%28All%29&what%5Buse.... > Wouldn't that make vouching a useless hurdle? Lobste.rs has a small audience and 3 moderators. The moderation is also much more active than HN - moderators will send private warnings, delete off-topic posts, etc. Moderator actions are publicly visible at https://lobste.rs/moderations https://lobste.rs/moderations. Vouching raises the barrier to entry and allows the moderators to keep up with the workload.
zelphirkalt 6y ago
Lobster needs invite for registration, does it not? That has prevented me from signing up there in the past. I do not want to beg for an invite.
- The_Colonel 6y ago
  Same. These exclusive clubs are just a big turn off.
- anentropic 6y ago
  I begged for an invite a while back and nothing happened, they just said "try and hang around [on the irc channel] for a while, maybe" not sure what the secret entry requirements are for that club or what the point is
  - non-entity 6y ago
    I've seen a few people on HN offer invites to other users after a conversation regarding the site. I've also seen lobste.rs threads where users suggest preventing new users from joining and even suggesting deleting existing users so they can preserve whatever perceived superiority their site has, so I don't expect them to be very open in general.

by traes 6y ago

Just so you know, it appears you've been shadow banned. No idea why. I would suggest joining lobste.rs, an HN clone built out of frustration of HN's lack of transparency on banning.

anonymoushn 6y ago

It appears that the procedure to sign up is to go to IRC and ask for an invite.

speps 6y ago
The point is also to vouch for someone when an invite is sent. At least in my mind, as in it's officially done, if the invitee misbehaves, it's kind of the responsibility of the inviter. Every profile has who invited who.
- zelphirkalt 6y ago
  Then how does the inviter know, that they can vouch for the invitee? Perhaps no one there knows me. Why would anyone vouch for someone they don't know? Wouldn't that make vouching a useless hurdle?
  - rlwinm 6y ago
    > Then how does the inviter know, that they can vouch for the invitee? AFAIK you aren't accountable for your invitees on a day-to-day basis. It just reflects poorly on you if you invite many poorly behaved people - this isn't substantially different from everyday life. > Perhaps no one there knows me. Why would anyone vouch for someone they don't know? Some people do invite everyone who asks. They can have their invite rights disabled or in extreme cases be banned from the site. This is relatively rare. You can see examples of this at https://lobste.rs/moderations?moderator=%28All%29&what%5Busers%5D=users https://lobste.rs/moderations?moderator=%28All%29&what%5Buse.... > Wouldn't that make vouching a useless hurdle? Lobste.rs has a small audience and 3 moderators. The moderation is also much more active than HN - moderators will send private warnings, delete off-topic posts, etc. Moderator actions are publicly visible at https://lobste.rs/moderations https://lobste.rs/moderations. Vouching raises the barrier to entry and allows the moderators to keep up with the workload.

zelphirkalt 6y ago

Lobster needs invite for registration, does it not? That has prevented me from signing up there in the past. I do not want to beg for an invite.

The_Colonel 6y ago
Same. These exclusive clubs are just a big turn off.
anentropic 6y ago
I begged for an invite a while back and nothing happened, they just said "try and hang around [on the irc channel] for a while, maybe" not sure what the secret entry requirements are for that club or what the point is
- non-entity 6y ago
  I've seen a few people on HN offer invites to other users after a conversation regarding the site. I've also seen lobste.rs threads where users suggest preventing new users from joining and even suggesting deleting existing users so they can preserve whatever perceived superiority their site has, so I don't expect them to be very open in general.