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Everybody that claims swine are filthy animals: that is absolutely not true. They are filthy because they have to sleep in their own shit, because the farmer p
by cookiengineer 6y ago
Everybody that claims swine are filthy animals: that is absolutely not true.
They are filthy because they have to sleep in their own shit, because the farmer presses them together in such a small room that they literally cannot move without hitting each other.
If pigs are raised on an open field, they roll themselves in water to keep them clean multiple times per day. On the other hand cows roll themselves in their shit, even when provided with puddles of water...and are unable to clean themselves afterwards because they ain't gonna take a bath.
Source: me, my grandparents had a rather mid-large farm in Germany and tried to raise their stock as humane as possible.
They also tried to raise chicken in an open manner, but that's close to impossible because you would have to have a lot of bushes, puddles, mixed areas of grass, plants, and a lot of fences in between (so groups don't attack other groups) around the stable. Otherwise chicken won't leave the stable, even not when they get infected.
And the value of chicken stock is so low that it's a financial disaster if you would build up a healthy environment for them, even if you would own the land. They would just destroy the plants so regularly that you would have to replace the plants at least on a monthly basis to provide hideouts and shadow for them.
- 082349872349872 6y agoPigs on alps keep themselves much cleaner than pigs in a sty[1]. Cattle use automatic brushes[2] when they're made available. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ww5nuVZnmc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ww5nuVZnmc also pigs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rD5fviQ_i3c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rD5fviQ_i3c [1] Or at least the sort of stys which haven't been legal here for a long time. Ferkeln in austrian music videos are even cleaner, but on the other hand the farmer depicted is obviously also not in her daily outfit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw-g6X8qob0&t=128 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw-g6X8qob0&t=128 0:35 damn, that's a sweet New Holland... [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23474129 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23474129
- cookiengineer 6y ago> Cattle use automatic brushes when they're made available. Damn, that's actually a very nice idea. We didn't have those back then.
- 082349872349872 6y agoFor poultry, what a former VC of mine tried to do was to have coops on wagons, moving them around his large-animal pastures on a semi-daily basis. Looks like it's a thing here, too: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobiles_Haltungssystem https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobiles_Haltungssystem FWIW, we only take "Freilandhaltung" eggs these days. For Ländler-fans: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euIrO9spk2A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euIrO9spk2A
- HeyLaughingBoy 6y agoIn the US, it's called a chicken tractor.