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Just because they are possible in an employee relationship, setting your own hours is typically not representative of an employee relationship. Doing the same j

Just because they are possible in an employee relationship, setting your own hours is typically not representative of an employee relationship. Doing the same job for multiple customers is typical of an independent contractor relationship. I see no evidence of misclassification where this person was employed by multiple employers. Which of the leagues do you believe was his employer?

Retric 6y ago
Working 2 to 3 part time jobs is extremely common in the US for low level staff and has been for decades. These people say when their available and then get scheduled in.
- mattmcknight 6y ago
  Of course, but that is not what make them employees, but is actually the part of the criteria for being able to claim independent contractor status. If you work one game for a soccer league, it is highly inefficient to have to create an employment relationship.
  - Retric 6y ago
    My point was having 100 clients is a strong sign that someone is a contractor having 3 is not. It’s also just one of ~20 factors. Also, length of relationship is judged on how renewable it is not how long it lasted. You can fire anyone on their first day. It’s really a question of how open ended the work is not how long someone spends doing it. A restaurant always needs people to cook food and a league always needs a referee as an inherent part of it’s business model. On the other hand a company might only need an architect when designing their new office, aka it’s inherently a finite business need. That architect can largely work at a location and time of their choosing, the referee needs to be where and when the games are taking place. Similarly, an Uber driver needs to be picking someone up at a specific location and specific time going somewhere else or waiting 1 hour doesn’t work.

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Just because they are possible in an employee relationship, setting your own hours is typically not representative of an employee relationship. Doing the same j

by mattmcknight 6y ago

Retric 6y ago
Working 2 to 3 part time jobs is extremely common in the US for low level staff and has been for decades. These people say when their available and then get scheduled in.
- mattmcknight 6y ago
  Of course, but that is not what make them employees, but is actually the part of the criteria for being able to claim independent contractor status. If you work one game for a soccer league, it is highly inefficient to have to create an employment relationship.
  - Retric 6y ago
    My point was having 100 clients is a strong sign that someone is a contractor having 3 is not. It’s also just one of ~20 factors. Also, length of relationship is judged on how renewable it is not how long it lasted. You can fire anyone on their first day. It’s really a question of how open ended the work is not how long someone spends doing it. A restaurant always needs people to cook food and a league always needs a referee as an inherent part of it’s business model. On the other hand a company might only need an architect when designing their new office, aka it’s inherently a finite business need. That architect can largely work at a location and time of their choosing, the referee needs to be where and when the games are taking place. Similarly, an Uber driver needs to be picking someone up at a specific location and specific time going somewhere else or waiting 1 hour doesn’t work.