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I wanted to disagree with you, but honestly my gut also says the MAGA hat person is at risk. Here's the thing though -- where's the data? Has that actually hap
by thunkpad 6y ago
I wanted to disagree with you, but honestly my gut also says the MAGA hat person is at risk.
Here's the thing though -- where's the data? Has that actually happened in any significance? Especially compared to right wing violence.
- nailer 6y agoThanks for being honest. There's a huge amount of video footage of people being beaten by rioters.
- thunkpad 6y agoPlease link me! I've been following the pipe bomb situation pretty closely so I've missed a lot of that stuff probably.
- nailer 6y agoYou're a green account, so I'm somewhat concerned you migh be a troll or whatever. But assuming you don't live in the US: just Google 'portland violence'
- thunkpad 6y agoYeah I lurked for way too long. Spent like half of yesterday rate limited, which is understandable. :) I actually have a few mutuals who have been on the ground in Portland and I'm in the southeast. I had seen this stuff when it first happened but it's just hard to pay much attention with other deadly force being deployed IMO. If you google Skylor Jernigan, you get nothing but local articles. There's a strong false equivalency being deployed there. e: almost forgot where I am! I rarely get to make this point but here we go: nitpicking out individualized acts of violence to discredit a large, decentralized movement is the exact same thing as FUD, IMO. It's a tactic for maintaining unequal power dynamics.
- nailer 6y ago> nitpicking out individualized acts of violence to discredit a large, decentralized movement That would forbid criticism of any violent decentralized movement. > There's a strong false equivalency being deployed there. I don't think there's any equivalency. There's no widespread looting and assault from the center or the right here. Antifa specifically are willing to use violence to suppress disbelievers as part of their manifesto, and have handbooks re: playing to the invisible audience, goading people into fight responses, etc. However I suspect you know this already. And that you're doing that it now.
- thunkpad 6y ago> That would forbid criticism of any violent decentralized movement. Establish a pattern of behavior? > There's no widespread looting and assault from the center or the right here. I know it's low hanging fruit but do you find this compelling?: https://www.businessinsider.com/right-wing-extremists-kill-329-since-1994-antifa-killed-none-2020-7 https://www.businessinsider.com/right-wing-extremists-kill-3... > and have handbooks re: playing to the invisible audience, goading people into fight responses, etc. Who is antifa??? More FUD. This is, in my opinion, a very lazy and poorly researched argument against the anti-fascist movement. Especially in a country where crime reporting is run through an institution with ties to white supremacy and roots in crushing strikes and capturing escaped slaves. Show me the data. Show me the pattern of left wing terror. > And that you're doing that it now. Not even touching this.. Oh also, are you sure you've been seeing literature from the "real" "antifa"? https://www.cbsnews.com/news/twitter-fake-antifa-acount-white-supremacists-removal/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/twitter-fake-antifa-acount-whit...