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I manage a team where we have had one member frequently get into issues with Slack. Mostly in the form of drawing into political discussions or lengthy drama, u
by mlthoughts2018 6y ago
I manage a team where we have had one member frequently get into issues with Slack. Mostly in the form of drawing into political discussions or lengthy drama, usually not inappropriate by tone or comment, but mostly by relentlessness and distraction.
His quality of work output is very high, his teammates rate him highly in reviews, he is kind & respectful in all other forms of communication like code reviews, team meetings, etc. It’s just 100% the instant gratification of a real time chat response in a debate thread that draws him to the problem zone.
Firing someone like this would be ridiculous. It would hurt team morale, lower productivity, sink costs into finding and training a backfill, and establish that we, as managers, would prefer to kick people and bark orders under the threat of dismissal than to be accepting of flaws and actually do the job of managing and help the person grow past this.
- staticassertion 6y agoI didn't tell you to fire anyone.
- mlthoughts2018 6y agoNah, I think you’re wrong. It would require a very revisionist / mental gymnastics interpretations of your original post and it just doesn’t seem reasonable given all your other follow up comments. You said “just fire the shitty people” in response to a very low stakes topic like misbehavior on a chat program, and then vigorously added response comments all over defending the claim that any type of community gathering of coworkers begets this shitty behavior. The most reasonable take possible on your initial comment is that you are suggesting a very extreme low bar for firing people rather than helping them improve.