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Obviously this is a screw up on Adobe's part, but this is a good time to remind everyone that if you're not backing up your data, then it must not be very impor

Obviously this is a screw up on Adobe's part, but this is a good time to remind everyone that if you're not backing up your data, then it must not be very important to you. Back up your stuff! You never know when something unexpected will cause you to lose it!

paulryanrogers 6y ago
And when you pay for a service that boasts online backups beware. They are just other people's computers.
- rosstex 6y ago
  Except for Backblaze, which is owned by magic wizards.
- bowmessage 6y ago
  > the latest update to the Lightroom app for iPhone and iPad inadvertently wiped users’ photos and presets that were not already synced to the cloud
bonoboTP 6y ago
Seriously, what if the device breaks, is lost, stolen, you accidentally delete things etc? These photos were not synced, they were just on one device... Anything that is just on one device can disappear any day for any reason and you shouldn't be surprised.
swiley 6y ago
Is there an alternative to iCloud for backing up the iPhone? I’ve kind of given up on checking what’s aloud this year.
- jagged-chisel 6y ago
  Your computer.
  - colejohnson66 6y ago
    Which can then be backed up offsite if you find the folder the backup is stored in.
- aikinai 6y ago
  Local backups have always been an option, both encrypted and unencrypted.
  - deleted 6y ago
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- Silhouette 6y ago
  For photos and videos specifically, yes. You can just plug it into a PC using the USB cable and it will let you pull the files straight off, just like a digital camera. For most other types of data, you're in Apple's walled garden. iCloud is an option, as long as you don't care about privacy and security of course. You can also use iTunes on a Mac laptop, as long as you're willing to buy more expensive Apple gear with more Apple software shenanigans just to get to your files. Otherwise, your best bet is probably to pay for one of the third-party applications that will help you to get your own data off your own device without relying on Apple's methods. Sadly, that was not a joke. But such software does exist, and some of it seems to have a good reputation.
rectang 6y ago
That's all well and good, but as an industry our backup mechanisms are a horror show. You have to go way out of your way to back things up, and if you make a mistake about what is getting backed up you are unlikely to find out until restoration fails. My sympathies lie with all the unlucky souls who are statistically all but guaranteed to experience data loss because it is so hard to do the right thing. Reminders which shunt people towards backup best practice are fine, but they are not a substitute for systems engineered to prevent data loss in the first place.
themeiguoren 6y ago
Your data should always be stored in 3 locations: 1) Your primary computer 2) An external hard drive you keep at home 3) The cloud (Dropbox, google drive, etc) This protects you from device failures, cloud failures/lapse of service, theft, and accidents at home (fires, floods). I personally keep the physical hard drive disconnected from the computer and in a safe, which should protect from power surges and weird edge cases like solar storms. And then I have a recurring calendar reminder set to back up my phone and computer to it every month. If my livelihood depended on that data (or if the stuff I most cared about like photos weren’t also on my phone) I’d do it more frequently.

paulryanrogers 6y ago

And when you pay for a service that boasts online backups beware. They are just other people's computers.

rosstex 6y ago
Except for Backblaze, which is owned by magic wizards.
bowmessage 6y ago
> the latest update to the Lightroom app for iPhone and iPad inadvertently wiped users’ photos and presets that were not already synced to the cloud

bonoboTP 6y ago

Seriously, what if the device breaks, is lost, stolen, you accidentally delete things etc? These photos were not synced, they were just on one device... Anything that is just on one device can disappear any day for any reason and you shouldn't be surprised.

swiley 6y ago

Is there an alternative to iCloud for backing up the iPhone? I’ve kind of given up on checking what’s aloud this year.

jagged-chisel 6y ago
Your computer.
- colejohnson66 6y ago
  Which can then be backed up offsite if you find the folder the backup is stored in.
aikinai 6y ago
Local backups have always been an option, both encrypted and unencrypted.
- deleted 6y ago
  [deleted]
Silhouette 6y ago
For photos and videos specifically, yes. You can just plug it into a PC using the USB cable and it will let you pull the files straight off, just like a digital camera. For most other types of data, you're in Apple's walled garden. iCloud is an option, as long as you don't care about privacy and security of course. You can also use iTunes on a Mac laptop, as long as you're willing to buy more expensive Apple gear with more Apple software shenanigans just to get to your files. Otherwise, your best bet is probably to pay for one of the third-party applications that will help you to get your own data off your own device without relying on Apple's methods. Sadly, that was not a joke. But such software does exist, and some of it seems to have a good reputation.

rectang 6y ago

That's all well and good, but as an industry our backup mechanisms are a horror show. You have to go way out of your way to back things up, and if you make a mistake about what is getting backed up you are unlikely to find out until restoration fails. My sympathies lie with all the unlucky souls who are statistically all but guaranteed to experience data loss because it is so hard to do the right thing. Reminders which shunt people towards backup best practice are fine, but they are not a substitute for systems engineered to prevent data loss in the first place.

themeiguoren 6y ago

Your data should always be stored in 3 locations: 1) Your primary computer 2) An external hard drive you keep at home 3) The cloud (Dropbox, google drive, etc) This protects you from device failures, cloud failures/lapse of service, theft, and accidents at home (fires, floods). I personally keep the physical hard drive disconnected from the computer and in a safe, which should protect from power surges and weird edge cases like solar storms. And then I have a recurring calendar reminder set to back up my phone and computer to it every month. If my livelihood depended on that data (or if the stuff I most cared about like photos weren’t also on my phone) I’d do it more frequently.