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Apparently they're doing pretty well. Don't expect them to change course. But this created the opportunity for others. I have migrated to Affinity photo + Captu
by old-gregg 6y ago
Apparently they're doing pretty well. Don't expect them to change course. But this created the opportunity for others. I have migrated to Affinity photo + Capture One. No regrets.
- nhooyr 6y agoIs Capture One significantly better than editing files just in folders?
- petepete 6y agoYeah, in my opinion. The catalog gives you loads of power, eases the culling process, allows you to easily export batches of photos with recipes, do searches against metadata. It also has 'sessions' which are aimed at individual shoots or projects. I suspect most pros use them instead of catalogues. It's essentially a self-contained directory structure that C1 understands,
- gwittel 6y agoHow did you find the migration? I’ve been resisting Lightroom upgrades as I don’t want the cloud stuff. But as raw support for new cameras falls off it’s getting harder since the two step DNG import is such a pain. Moving to Capture One or something else seems worthwhile. Tried Darktable but wasn’t a big fan.
- aikinai 6y agoI switched to Capture One and it’s so much better. The main factor is speed. Also allowing layers for all adjustments.
- gwittel 6y agoHow’s its catalog? One thing I like about Lightroom is the catalog is just files on disk vs a giant database in say Aperture. I like having my own file layout and would hate to give that up.
- wishinghand 6y agoI'm in the same boat and slowly realizing that the one-two punch of managing assets and editing may have to be split into separate apps.
- justinclift 6y agoIsn't the database in SQLite? So, you can open it in a SQLite GUI (eg sqlitebrowser.org, which I'm a dev member of) to see and/or screw with stuff?
- gwittel 6y agoLightroom’s is. Not sure about capture pro. In Apertures case, the photos and meta data are in one giant blob. I’d want to avoid that. Manage the files my way, then have a separate metadata store. The downside of the SQLite dB is no network editing. I’d love to be able to edit from multiple machines without a cloud subscription or super slow NFS.
- justinclift 6y agoCool, makes sense. :)
- elektronaut 6y agoIt’s just files inside a magic folder. Edits are stored in sidecar files. So even if the database is corrupted, you can still recover. You don’t need to have your photos inside the catalog either, they can be referenced externally. If you like to maintain your own structure, you might like the Sessions feature. It’s an folder-based alternative to the monolithic catalog.
- aikinai 6y agoYeah, I use sessions, which basically means there’s no catalog. I just keep the files where I like and open those folders with Capture One when editing. I also like the EIP package format. You can package an image into a zip of the original image and all Capture One data. Then it’s just one file for your archives but everything you need is there for the future. Even if you can’t open the Capture One bits at some point, the original is still in there.
- bonestamp2 6y agoI bought Affinity Photo and I am not enjoying the migration. Having used Photoshop for 20 years, there is so much muscle memory for a lot of tasks that were quick and are much slower now. It's really hard to learn and easy to feel disgruntled when you know you could have been done in a few seconds in Photoshop. I'm considering running CS6 in a VM or paying for the damn subscription.
- Silhouette 6y agoI bought Affinity Photo and I am not enjoying the migration. How long have you been working with Affinity? It's not Adobe's software and it's not trying to be, so there is always going to be some period of adjustment while you get used to a new way of doing things. IME, that passed very quickly, and within a few hours I was doing most basic tasks as readily in Affinity products as I would have done in CS/CC ones, but my work is usually more in Designer than Photo. There is still quite a bit of useful functionality present in CC but missing in Affinity, which is a more serious problem for power users who have workflows and presets and plug-ins and so on set up with the Adobe products. But the Affinity suite seems to be developing rapidly, so perhaps in time this gap will close too.
- jseliger 6y agoCapture One is more annoying in a bunch of user interface ways (for example it doesn't default to importing RAWs for some unknown reason) but it is learnable. Expect some time watching how-to videos on YouTube if you want to achieve proficiency.
- petepete 6y agoIf you tell C1 to ignore JPEGs in the settings they'll be omitted from the import dialog and won't be imported. That's how it works on v11, at least.
- iaml 6y agoNot op, but recently switched to same combo after trying darktable, rawtherapee and digikam. Open source solutions had some random problems, strange ui and they lock up when you change slider values, at least on my laptop. Capture one doesn't and the overall polish is decent. Affinity photo lacks some photoshop features like content-aware fill AFAICT but good enough for my amateur needs. Not going back, screw you adobe.
- old-gregg 6y agoHow did you find the migration? Lightroom -> Capture One was an upgrade. Even when the learning curve is taken into account, I found C1 to be superior piece of software. It's faster, its color editing is better, and the default look it gives me was just better, at least for my camera. Photoshop -> Affinity Photo was painful. I'd estimate the pain to be "moderate". It misses some features I want (color calibration targets support, some layer blending modes) and some others are not as great (no smart sharpening). Affinity UX of working with layers is surprisingly painful and the attention to detail in the UI is poor. But since 90% of my time is spent in C1 anyway, I found it tolerable.
- LordAtlas 6y agoCan Capture One migrate my existing LR catalogs?