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Source for this? I've heard it said a number of times but haven't looked into it. It makes sense, but I know many countries have laws about possession too.

nextlevelwizard 6y ago
Don't you have searchable law texts in US? This info should be a single Google search from you.
- kick 6y ago
  You can't find a negative value, or a lie, in a text search, which this is.
  - nextlevelwizard 6y ago
    You should be able to find the section that covers the issue and literally just read if it contains the thing or not...
gnopgnip 6y ago
"Copyright" means the rights holder has the following exclusive rights. The right to reproduce and make copies of an original work; The right to prepare derivative works based on the original work; The right to distribute copies to the public by sale or another form of transfer, such as rental or lending; The right to publicly perform the work; The right to publicly display the work, and The right to perform sound recordings publicly through digital audio transmission. Someone uploading a file, or downloading a file on a peer to peer website that also involves uploading a file is violating a number of these rights. Downloading a file(not on a peer to peer site) is not a violation of any of these exclusive rights. This is analogous to an unauthorized public screening of a movie. The the person who displayed the movie without permission is infringing on the rights holder's copyright, the people who are watching are not.
- Thorentis 6y ago
  The uploading (in a peer to peer sense) I've always found interesting. Because most of the time, a casual downloader who doesn't seed, but only uploads for the duration of their download, would actually upload very little. How much do they need to upload to be in violation of copyright? Does any part of the upload need to be convertable into part of the original work? For instance, let's say the bittorrent protocol was altered such that instead of pieces, you're assigned random bits to upload that are never enough to be assembled into any part of the original file in human watchable form. Have you actually violated copyright if you upload some of these bits? Eg what if you uploaded a single bit (a 1 or a 0). Clearly not in violation. How many bits do you need to upload to be in violation?
  - gnopgnip 6y ago
    The RIAA has unsuccessfully tried to claim that "making available(for download)" is infringement. So there would need to be some amount of actual uploading to prove this as a civil case. But even if you only seed while downloading it is likely even the relatively small amount uploaded would meet the legal requirement, the law does not require that you distributed a full copy of a particular work. Ultimately whether a specific amount would be enough would come down to the judge or jury.

nextlevelwizard 6y ago

Don't you have searchable law texts in US? This info should be a single Google search from you.

kick 6y ago
You can't find a negative value, or a lie, in a text search, which this is.
- nextlevelwizard 6y ago
  You should be able to find the section that covers the issue and literally just read if it contains the thing or not...

gnopgnip 6y ago

"Copyright" means the rights holder has the following exclusive rights. The right to reproduce and make copies of an original work; The right to prepare derivative works based on the original work; The right to distribute copies to the public by sale or another form of transfer, such as rental or lending; The right to publicly perform the work; The right to publicly display the work, and The right to perform sound recordings publicly through digital audio transmission. Someone uploading a file, or downloading a file on a peer to peer website that also involves uploading a file is violating a number of these rights. Downloading a file(not on a peer to peer site) is not a violation of any of these exclusive rights. This is analogous to an unauthorized public screening of a movie. The the person who displayed the movie without permission is infringing on the rights holder's copyright, the people who are watching are not.

Thorentis 6y ago
The uploading (in a peer to peer sense) I've always found interesting. Because most of the time, a casual downloader who doesn't seed, but only uploads for the duration of their download, would actually upload very little. How much do they need to upload to be in violation of copyright? Does any part of the upload need to be convertable into part of the original work? For instance, let's say the bittorrent protocol was altered such that instead of pieces, you're assigned random bits to upload that are never enough to be assembled into any part of the original file in human watchable form. Have you actually violated copyright if you upload some of these bits? Eg what if you uploaded a single bit (a 1 or a 0). Clearly not in violation. How many bits do you need to upload to be in violation?
- gnopgnip 6y ago
  The RIAA has unsuccessfully tried to claim that "making available(for download)" is infringement. So there would need to be some amount of actual uploading to prove this as a civil case. But even if you only seed while downloading it is likely even the relatively small amount uploaded would meet the legal requirement, the law does not require that you distributed a full copy of a particular work. Ultimately whether a specific amount would be enough would come down to the judge or jury.