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I think the problem is that driver’s want to remain independent, but their cost is borne by the society. Such as the recent CAREs act had unemployment for drive
by dmode 6y ago
I think the problem is that driver’s want to remain independent, but their cost is borne by the society. Such as the recent CAREs act had unemployment for drivers. I am assuming they also get subsidized healthcare, and would be eligible for Medicare ? Their employers don't really contribute to these things. But perhaps the law should just have complied them to contribute via additional taxes instead of asking them to be classified
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- jschwartzi 6y agoIf you're an IC, you have to pay Self-Employment Tax to cover the employer's part of the payroll tax deductions. Plus you're also liable for all the usual payroll taxes. That burden doesn't go away just because you get a 1099 instead of a W-2. So it's the drivers who are in theory paying in to healthcare subsidies and Medicare.
- pishpash 6y agoTaxes are on earnings after top-of-the-line deductions for business expenses including gas and depreciation that they'd lose on the W-2. Drivers aren't stupid as you think.
- gnopgnip 6y agoIf they were employees they would be required to be reimbursed for business expenses including commercial insurance, and mileage to cover gas and depreciation.
- pishpash 6y agoThe reimbursement requirement is baselined with respect to minimum wage, so it could be effectively $0. If it is not $0, the form would be additional W-2 pay, which is allowed by law, and this would be subject to all taxes. On top of the tax loss, calculation would not be at the generous IRS mileage rate that drivers currently exploit, but true expenses which most say are lower. Yet people continue to think drivers are stupider than they are at doing what they do every day. It's pretty fucking arrogant.
- gnopgnip 6y agoCA requires that employers reimburse employees for work related expenses, so there is no issue with expense kickback taking someone below minimum wage. Reimbursement is not earned wages, it is not taxed. It is true reimbursement could be lower than the IRS rate, but actual costs are pretty close to the IRS mileage rate in practice. Depreciation has a real cost that is ignored by many
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