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+1 for tipping culture. I just dont get it, why can employers pay their fair share, instead of expecting customers to foot the bill.
by ram_rar 6y ago
+1 for tipping culture. I just dont get it, why can employers pay their fair share, instead of expecting customers to foot the bill.
- ksdale 6y agoI wouldn't mind at all if tipping culture disappeared, but I think it's naive to think that costs wouldn't go up dramatically for customers. Customers are footing the bill one way or another, it's just a matter of whether we're willing to pay enough to ensure everyone gets a livable wage.
- crosscorsair 6y agoThe real problem of tipping culture is it transferred the conflict of interest from businesses/employees to customers/employees. Yes customers may end up paying the same, but when the employees want more, they will not ask for it from the customers.
- ccktlmazeltov 6y agoso you're saying you're hopping that tipping goes away like that you can save by not tipping and letting other people tip? Sounds good to me!
- ksdale 6y agoI don’t think there’s any possible interpretation of my comment that lines up with what you said...
- Skunkleton 6y ago> instead of expecting customers to foot the bill. Either way, the customer will be paying this bill.
- colejohnson66 6y agoI’d rather my cost go up and tipping disappear (leaving the total the same) if it means I don’t have a societal obligation to tip. Then I can actually use tips for what they’re supposed to be for: above and beyond service.
- Skunkleton 6y agoI think the idea of a tipping is demeaning personally. You wouldn’t tip a doctor who worked extra hard for you, would you?
- dannyw 6y agoNo but I’d leave a good review and maybe write a card.
- ccktlmazeltov 6y agoI'll do that at the restaurant next time
- Skunkleton 6y agoDo you want spit in your burger? Because that is how you get spit in your burger.
- ccktlmazeltov 6y agoI do that after I get the food : )
- ccktlmazeltov 6y agoOP's point is that you don't have to tip right now, but if tip goes away then the tip will be included in the price and mandatory
- Skunkleton 6y agoI've not tipped a few times, usually in anger, and one shameful time when had less money than I thought I did. Still, this is just a few instances out of probably thousands. I'm certain that I am not saving money because of tipping.
- pixelatedindex 6y agoI'm on the same boat. But if you're living in America, you tip. Several projects have been undertaken over the years to try to eliminate it but time and time again it's failed. https://www.grubstreet.com/2018/12/restaurant-tipping-returns.html https://www.grubstreet.com/2018/12/restaurant-tipping-return... https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/20/dining/danny-meyer-no-tips.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/20/dining/danny-meyer-no-tip... https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2016/05/15/478096516/why-restaurants-are-ditching-the-switch-to-no-tipping https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2016/05/15/478096516/wh... Sad, but true.
- ccktlmazeltov 6y agonope, it's not mandatory to tip, I never tip
- anonunivgrad 6y agoThis is a myth. Tipped employees typically do way better than the minimum wage. Tipping encourages good service. Go to your average European restaurant and you can see what the alternative is: lazy and often outright rude waitstaff who resent their customers.
- Cederfjard 6y agoI’ve been to many European restaurants, being European myself, and I don’t usually find that waitstaff are rude or lazy. I actually think I would be a bit nauseated by a waiter putting on some sort of over-friendly spiel for me to encourage a higher tip. It makes sense that receiving tips can be more lucrative than a low fixed wage. Is it the case across the board? I imagine that young and attractive people do better in that regard, irrespective of actual performance.
- ccktlmazeltov 6y agoin the US every 5 min your waiter comes to ask you if you're OK, I fucking hate that
- anonunivgrad 6y agoAnd as a result, whenever you want something, you get it quickly. Be it drink refill, sauces, an extra order, the check if you’re in a hurry to leave, etc. A skilled waiter can make himself available without interrupting too, by being on the lookout for eye contact and walking around his tables. I find it very pleasant.
- Game_Ender 6y agoThe drivers wanted in app tips. I think Lyft and Uber set rates assuming no tips, because usually people don’t tip and they get enough government heat already. They don’t want to end up like Door Dash and start using tips to explicitly cover base rates.
- ccktlmazeltov 6y agoJust don't tip, you're contributing to the problem if you do