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That's your subjective opinion. Millions of riders and drivers think it's a great business, and full-time driving jobs already exist for those who want them. W

That's your subjective opinion. Millions of riders and drivers think it's a great business, and full-time driving jobs already exist for those who want them. Why should drivers not have a choice? What if flexibility is important to them? Why do hours matter they're a contractor? Should they not set their own time? Do you also oppose freelance writers or artists that work 40+ hours?

azinman2 6y ago
Should kids have a choice if they want to engage in child labor? Should people be able to sell their organs or children for money? Opt into slavery? The reason why we have legislation that creates regulation is because there's a body of people trying to look out for the larger common good, particularly when existing labor laws are being skirted around. If there wasn't a problem of exploitation of this entire business model (not just Lyft, but also Postmates, Instacart, task rabbit, etc), then CA wouldn't be intervening. If NYTimes and all other news publishers had people working full time for only them, but only classified them as contractors (so much flexibility! except when you need to make a full time living), then yes I would have a problem with it. In fact, I believe that would be breaking the law.
- manigandham 6y ago
  These aren't kids, they're adults. Some countries do allow voluntary organ donation for kidneys, pieces of liver, etc and it works fine (so yes that should be a choice). Slavery is clearly not free exchange of value. Who's looking out for drivers? Do they have any experience of driving? Why do most drivers want flexibility and say they're against these changes then? Why don't the existing unfilled driving jobs suffice for those who want jobs? If drivers are clearly choosing to be rideshare contractors instead of other open jobs, why should they no longer have that choice? If you're going to remove people's freedom then you better have an absolutely perfect explanation of what they're supposedly suffering from. If the best you can think of is that some people don't make as much as you want then that's just not good enough. If CA wanted real change, a new 3rd classification should've been created, or offer public health and benefits pools that all contractors can pay into. Instead this is the same state that fines tax-paying citizens for not having health insurance but offers it for free to illegal immigrants. So no, I don't see how CA govt represents the people or has any idea about the common good.

azinman2 6y ago

Should kids have a choice if they want to engage in child labor? Should people be able to sell their organs or children for money? Opt into slavery? The reason why we have legislation that creates regulation is because there's a body of people trying to look out for the larger common good, particularly when existing labor laws are being skirted around. If there wasn't a problem of exploitation of this entire business model (not just Lyft, but also Postmates, Instacart, task rabbit, etc), then CA wouldn't be intervening. If NYTimes and all other news publishers had people working full time for only them, but only classified them as contractors (so much flexibility! except when you need to make a full time living), then yes I would have a problem with it. In fact, I believe that would be breaking the law.

manigandham 6y ago
These aren't kids, they're adults. Some countries do allow voluntary organ donation for kidneys, pieces of liver, etc and it works fine (so yes that should be a choice). Slavery is clearly not free exchange of value. Who's looking out for drivers? Do they have any experience of driving? Why do most drivers want flexibility and say they're against these changes then? Why don't the existing unfilled driving jobs suffice for those who want jobs? If drivers are clearly choosing to be rideshare contractors instead of other open jobs, why should they no longer have that choice? If you're going to remove people's freedom then you better have an absolutely perfect explanation of what they're supposedly suffering from. If the best you can think of is that some people don't make as much as you want then that's just not good enough. If CA wanted real change, a new 3rd classification should've been created, or offer public health and benefits pools that all contractors can pay into. Instead this is the same state that fines tax-paying citizens for not having health insurance but offers it for free to illegal immigrants. So no, I don't see how CA govt represents the people or has any idea about the common good.