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This is a giant transfer of wealth, LA, SF, SJ will all see their housing prices tank, as people who can't afford cars are expected to move to suburbs where the

This is a giant transfer of wealth, LA, SF, SJ will all see their housing prices tank, as people who can't afford cars are expected to move to suburbs where they can park a car.

smsm42 6y ago
In SJ pretty much everyone who can afford it has a car now. Maybe not literally everyone but vast majority. It's very hard to live in SJ without a car. Public transportation exists but is next to useless unless you go between select very small number of points, and SJ is pretty big, especially the residential part. So I don't foresee much effect on SJ prices-wise - SJ is already suburbs anyway (there's downtown but it's tiny). SF OTOH has been pretty navigable with public transport plus Uber/Lyft. I try not to go there lately, for obvious reasons, but when I did I could get around there without a car without too much trouble. Having no flexible option (and taxis sucked before Uber rose and I'm sure will continue to suck after) would make it much worse, but I expect SF prices to drop anyway - people are finally realizing they don't have to pay 3.5K/month for a studio just to work remotely anyway. Golden Gate park is nice but not that nice.
blueplanet200 6y ago
Uber and Lyft didn't exist before, and folks managed fine without owning cars. Also wait and see what they do post election. The outcome of Prop 22 will decide what their true response is, until then this is just grandstanding to force voters to vote yes.
- aeternum 6y ago
  Because before people owned cars. SF especially can no longer support the level of per-capita car ownership it had pre-uber/lyft.
qppo 6y ago
LA already mandates 1.5 parking spots per unit of housing or something along those lines. And anyone that can afford a car probably has one, and anyone who can afford to move to the suburbs and live with the hellish commutes already has. I don't think this changes anything about transit in LA.
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This is a giant transfer of wealth, LA, SF, SJ will all see their housing prices tank, as people who can't afford cars are expected to move to suburbs where they can park a car.

smsm42 6y ago

In SJ pretty much everyone who can afford it has a car now. Maybe not literally everyone but vast majority. It's very hard to live in SJ without a car. Public transportation exists but is next to useless unless you go between select very small number of points, and SJ is pretty big, especially the residential part. So I don't foresee much effect on SJ prices-wise - SJ is already suburbs anyway (there's downtown but it's tiny). SF OTOH has been pretty navigable with public transport plus Uber/Lyft. I try not to go there lately, for obvious reasons, but when I did I could get around there without a car without too much trouble. Having no flexible option (and taxis sucked before Uber rose and I'm sure will continue to suck after) would make it much worse, but I expect SF prices to drop anyway - people are finally realizing they don't have to pay 3.5K/month for a studio just to work remotely anyway. Golden Gate park is nice but not that nice.

blueplanet200 6y ago

Uber and Lyft didn't exist before, and folks managed fine without owning cars. Also wait and see what they do post election. The outcome of Prop 22 will decide what their true response is, until then this is just grandstanding to force voters to vote yes.

aeternum 6y ago
Because before people owned cars. SF especially can no longer support the level of per-capita car ownership it had pre-uber/lyft.

qppo 6y ago

LA already mandates 1.5 parking spots per unit of housing or something along those lines. And anyone that can afford a car probably has one, and anyone who can afford to move to the suburbs and live with the hellish commutes already has. I don't think this changes anything about transit in LA.

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