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That's what AB5 did. It allowed for a new type of worker that was still partially an employee but would also allow for flexible hours and the ability for driver
by tedivm 6y ago
That's what AB5 did. It allowed for a new type of worker that was still partially an employee but would also allow for flexible hours and the ability for drivers to reject rides.
That's what's so disingenuous about this campaign by Uber and Lyft. They're pretending that being an employee would take away all of this flexibility, but the reality is the legislation left that flexibility in place. This is entirely an argument about benefits and protections, but Lyft and Uber are trying to pretend otherwise.
- kaesar14 6y agoEverything I look up says AB5 makes rideshare drivers wholesale employees with the obligations and benefits that carries. Can you explain what you mean?
- manigandham 6y agoThat's nothing new. Employees can already have flexible hours and part-time employment. The issue is that they're still considered employees which means predetermined shifts and control rather than fluid supply meeting demand by the minute. This changes the service (which matters more than the price for customers) so that it no longer works at the current scale.
- Majromax 6y ago> The issue is that they're still considered employees which means predetermined shifts Is there anything in California labour law or AB5 that requires predetermined shifts? What would prevent Uber/Lyft from allowing its now-employees to volunteer for an X-hour shift at any point that demand forecasts suggest it would be useful?
- manigandham 6y agoThat's a predetermined shift. Your only option is to accept it or not. Not work when and where and however long you want.
- tedivm 6y agoThere's nothing in California law that requires predetermined shifts. The only rules are that if you do have predetermined shifts, you have to pay for at least half the shift even if you send someone home early. All of these people talking about predetermined shifts are just pretty FUD with no backing in reality.
- manigandham 6y agoAre you assuming that Uber will pay you for time and yet let you just turn on the app and sit in a parking lot wherever you want? What do you call it when Uber tells an employee where, when and how long to work?