Dead trees = coal, oil and gas. Solar and wind are not something you can decide when you want it and the EROEI is only ok if you subvention the manufacturing a

Dead trees = coal, oil and gas. Solar and wind are not something you can decide when you want it and the EROEI is only ok if you subvention the manufacturing and/or grid with dead-trees, when you look at it from a system perspective they are utterly useless. The numbers only look good through the debt lens. Both solar and wind have very short lifespans.