5 ms·

People literally believe Trump is worse than Hitler. How is that not just as bad?

arp242 6y ago
I've spent significant amounts of time in left-wing circles and I've never seen anyone say anything close to that. Perhaps there are a few people on the extreme fringes who think so – you can always find one or two nutcases – but they don't represent anything near the mainstream.
- pjc50 6y ago
  I've certainly seen people say that, but never seriously. Of course someone will now claim that all the Qanon stuff is just joking, like Alex Jones said that libelling the Sandy Hook survivors was "entertainment".
- throwaway3699 6y ago
  CNN literally aired this phrase on television: https://mobile.twitter.com/ReaganBattalion/status/1165666060609183744 https://mobile.twitter.com/ReaganBattalion/status/1165666060... If I were to go into work saying I supported Trump, I risk getting fired, because of rhetoric like this.
  - input_sh 6y ago
    Can we stop pretending that CNN has anything to do with the "far left"?
    - throwaway3699 6y ago
      The mountain of evidence disagrees with you.
      - edgyquant 6y ago
        Let's see this evidence
        throwaway3699 6y ago
        CNN promotes BLM/Antifa (the rioters, not just the peaceful protesters). Both groups say on their website that they are Marxist organisations and want to destroy capitalism and the Nuclear family. CNN supporting such a goal is inherently far left. I don't know if they do this for ideological reasons, or if the outrage machine makes them a lot of money. My guess would be the latter.
        edgyquant 6y ago
        CNN sympathizes with their cause not their organizations.
        throwaway3699 6y ago
        I do too, but CNN are clearly turning a blind eye to the organisations behind the cause. I will actually ascribe this to most major networks, not just CNN.
        snypher 6y ago
        Antifa isn't a centralised group, let alone do they have a website that speaks on their behalf.
      - input_sh 6y ago
        The only mountain of evidence I see is the one pointing to the fact that you have no clue what the far left is.
      - jhomedall 6y ago
        As a non-American, I find the idea of CNN being far-left to be pretty comical.
  - arp242 6y ago
    That Tweet is a misquote though. He said "he may be responsible for many more deaths" rather than "he may have killed". Very big difference. And he certainly never said that "Trump is literally worse than Hitler". Considering he brings up climate change immediately afterwards it seems he mostly means Trump's persistent war on anything that will slow this down, which will (and already is) causing major problems. A comparison with Mao's incompetence isn't complete inaccurate actually. I do agree it's not helpful, and comparisons to Hitler and Stalin are certainly wildly inappropriate. But some random guy saying something silly and offensive in one (live?) interview is still not the same as a set of very specific completely baseless allegations in the right-wing conspiracies theories.
  - kmonsen 6y ago
    They really do not say it at all, never mind literally. The twitter poster is using quotes "", but what they quote is never said. And the speaker specifically is arguing against calling Trump anything, and says we should speak back against policies and stop with name calling.
devtul 6y ago
I love how your comment is grayed out with a child comment saying they never heard rhetoric like that in their leftist circles. At this point I can only assume ill intent, since we are bombarded daily with rhetoric likening any action by the POTUS and his admin to something nazist.

I've spent significant amounts of time in left-wing circles and I've never seen anyone say anything close to that. Perhaps there are a few people on the extreme fringes who think so – you can always find one or two nutcases – but they don't represent anything near the mainstream.

pjc50 6y ago
I've certainly seen people say that, but never seriously. Of course someone will now claim that all the Qanon stuff is just joking, like Alex Jones said that libelling the Sandy Hook survivors was "entertainment".
throwaway3699 6y ago
CNN literally aired this phrase on television: https://mobile.twitter.com/ReaganBattalion/status/1165666060609183744 https://mobile.twitter.com/ReaganBattalion/status/1165666060... If I were to go into work saying I supported Trump, I risk getting fired, because of rhetoric like this.
- input_sh 6y ago
  Can we stop pretending that CNN has anything to do with the "far left"?
  - throwaway3699 6y ago
    The mountain of evidence disagrees with you.
    - edgyquant 6y ago
      Let's see this evidence
      - throwaway3699 6y ago
        CNN promotes BLM/Antifa (the rioters, not just the peaceful protesters). Both groups say on their website that they are Marxist organisations and want to destroy capitalism and the Nuclear family. CNN supporting such a goal is inherently far left. I don't know if they do this for ideological reasons, or if the outrage machine makes them a lot of money. My guess would be the latter.
        edgyquant 6y ago
        CNN sympathizes with their cause not their organizations.
        throwaway3699 6y ago
        I do too, but CNN are clearly turning a blind eye to the organisations behind the cause. I will actually ascribe this to most major networks, not just CNN.
        snypher 6y ago
        Antifa isn't a centralised group, let alone do they have a website that speaks on their behalf.
    - input_sh 6y ago
      The only mountain of evidence I see is the one pointing to the fact that you have no clue what the far left is.
    - jhomedall 6y ago
      As a non-American, I find the idea of CNN being far-left to be pretty comical.
- arp242 6y ago
  That Tweet is a misquote though. He said "he may be responsible for many more deaths" rather than "he may have killed". Very big difference. And he certainly never said that "Trump is literally worse than Hitler". Considering he brings up climate change immediately afterwards it seems he mostly means Trump's persistent war on anything that will slow this down, which will (and already is) causing major problems. A comparison with Mao's incompetence isn't complete inaccurate actually. I do agree it's not helpful, and comparisons to Hitler and Stalin are certainly wildly inappropriate. But some random guy saying something silly and offensive in one (live?) interview is still not the same as a set of very specific completely baseless allegations in the right-wing conspiracies theories.
- kmonsen 6y ago
  They really do not say it at all, never mind literally. The twitter poster is using quotes "", but what they quote is never said. And the speaker specifically is arguing against calling Trump anything, and says we should speak back against policies and stop with name calling.

devtul 6y ago

I love how your comment is grayed out with a child comment saying they never heard rhetoric like that in their leftist circles. At this point I can only assume ill intent, since we are bombarded daily with rhetoric likening any action by the POTUS and his admin to something nazist.