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There are entire cohorts of interested companies and industries that will be looking to benefit from a reduction in Apple's standard pricing policies. Do we kn

by wmab 6y ago

There are entire cohorts of interested companies and industries that will be looking to benefit from a reduction in Apple's standard pricing policies. Do we know how / if Apple charges SaaS companies who enable adding seats through their App Store apps? I'm thinking the likes of Slack, Trello, Zoom, Notion etc, I haven't heard that they get charged by Apple?

alfonsodev 6y ago
> If you have a complete billing system outside of the app and the user can never get to a page with signup or billing information from inside the app, then you can still avoid having to pay 30%. I'm quoting [1], but from my expirience that's true, the problem comes when you link to your website without giving the option to pay with Apple system. Slack doesn't have any direct link to add seats, I think that's how they avoid the 30%. Why Spotify wouldn't do the same then ? I think maybe because they target a more mainstream public that will not understand that they have to go to website to pay and then go back to the app? Maybe they reckon that would be losing more than 30% without that flow, or I'm missing something. [1]https://www.quora.com/How-does-Apple-determine-whether-a-service-is-subject-to-the-in-app-purchase-30-fee https://www.quora.com/How-does-Apple-determine-whether-a-ser...
- wmab 6y ago
  Yeah that's interesting. I think the friction "Go to the website to signup" is worth them spending the 30% to have it in-app for Spotify, catering for the lowest denominator of user.
white-flame 6y ago
Not sure about everything in general, but games are specifically singled out as required to go through Apple's payment processing. Other non-gaming stuff might have different or more flexible options.
paxys 6y ago
Apple has separate rules for purely business apps like Slack and Zoom, as well as a set of exceptions for Netflix, Spotify etc. Most other consumer-focused apps aren't allowed to do the same, so they have to offer an in-app subscription.

by wmab 6y ago

alfonsodev 6y ago

> If you have a complete billing system outside of the app and the user can never get to a page with signup or billing information from inside the app, then you can still avoid having to pay 30%. I'm quoting [1], but from my expirience that's true, the problem comes when you link to your website without giving the option to pay with Apple system. Slack doesn't have any direct link to add seats, I think that's how they avoid the 30%. Why Spotify wouldn't do the same then ? I think maybe because they target a more mainstream public that will not understand that they have to go to website to pay and then go back to the app? Maybe they reckon that would be losing more than 30% without that flow, or I'm missing something. [1]https://www.quora.com/How-does-Apple-determine-whether-a-service-is-subject-to-the-in-app-purchase-30-fee https://www.quora.com/How-does-Apple-determine-whether-a-ser...

wmab 6y ago
Yeah that's interesting. I think the friction "Go to the website to signup" is worth them spending the 30% to have it in-app for Spotify, catering for the lowest denominator of user.

white-flame 6y ago

Not sure about everything in general, but games are specifically singled out as required to go through Apple's payment processing. Other non-gaming stuff might have different or more flexible options.

paxys 6y ago

Apple has separate rules for purely business apps like Slack and Zoom, as well as a set of exceptions for Netflix, Spotify etc. Most other consumer-focused apps aren't allowed to do the same, so they have to offer an in-app subscription.