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What did they do in order to promote peace?
by pif 6y ago
What did they do in order to promote peace?
- fsflover 6y agoRead Snowden's book https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permanent_Record_(autobiography) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permanent_Record_(autobiograph...
- mavdi 6y agoNo thanks. He’s Russia’s useful idiot.
- thrownaway954 6y agoi don't normally down vote people, but you earned it
- WarOnPrivacy 6y agoI think it was the 3rd one I've ever given.
- Dirlewanger 6y agoAt least you didn't pull out the tired "he's a traitor" line
- tehjoker 6y agoStill buying the old cold war propaganda huh?
- Redoubts 6y agoIf I didn't want to be roundly embarrassed by Russian intelligence services, I'd simply stop illegally spying on my citizens while claiming to be a liberal democratic republic.
- me_me_me 6y agowow 9gag here on HN? What a time to be alive.
- david_draco 6y agoThey held a previous Nobel Peace Prize winner accountable.
- pc86 6y agoManning has done nothing to hold anyone accountable. She stole classified data, haphazardly, and did nothing to ensure its release wouldn't get people killed. Then, she dumped it all to WikiLeaks. She didn't do it to protect anyone or as a whistleblower. Even if you hate what Snowden did, he is a whistleblower in the sense that he saw something he thought was wrong, and carefully pulled enough data to prove it without endangering anyone's lives or doing unnecessary damage to his country. I could totally get behind Assange's and Snowden's nominations (but like others have said a nomination for this Prize is meaningless), but Manning's seems ridiculous.
- WarOnPrivacy 6y ago>Manning has done nothing to hold anyone accountable. She stole classified data, haphazardly, and did nothing to ensure its release wouldn't get people killed. Then, she dumped it all to WikiLeaks. She didn't do it to protect anyone or as a whistleblower. I'm unclear why the challenges with the Manning release begin with the 22yo w/o enough experience to make better judgments and not the scores of military and political careerists who created, enabled and hid the atrocities.
- Nasrudith 6y agoTransparency is the first step to accountability. Manning isn't a superhuman capable of bringing about justice directly - the failure shows that the system stops at nothing to shield the guilty and throws our heroes in jail.
- pc86 6y agoMy point is she's not a hero unless you consider people who recklessly commit federal crimes without even the slightest bit of forethought heroes. Snowden saw a massive problem and was methodical and diligent in his process. Even if you hate what you did, he went out of his way to protect innocent people while still exposing the wrongdoing. To use a military analogy, Snowden tried to snipe someone surrounded by hostages while Manning just tossed a grenade into the room.
- balkY 6y agoThat has always been an optional requirement for that prize. The prize is awarded on the principle "we like that famous person".
- gonzo41 6y agoAre all the green names bots?
- castis 6y agogreen name means the account is new
- scbrg 6y agoWhich, in a highly political discussion, is often equivalent.
- luckylion 6y agoThat's a valid criticism though. They gave it to Obama, who then turned around and carried the Drone Assassinations Program to new heights. Kissinger or Arafat aren't obvious agents of peace either, so it's certainly not a mandatory requirement.