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As it relies on P2P, watching a PeerTube video exposes your IP to anyone who wants it. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17387289 https://news.ycombinator.c
by natex 6y ago
As it relies on P2P, watching a PeerTube video exposes your IP to anyone who wants it.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17387289 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17387289
- ihuman 6y agoAre there any p2p services that don't do that? I thought you need a peer's IP when using any p2p service?
- white-flame 6y agoAny p2p system over an anonymity framework like Tor or I2P would meet that criteria.
- zo1 6y agoTor? Freenet? Maybe Peertube over Tor?
- deleted 6y ago[deleted]
- ekianjo 6y agoYou are exposing your IP to Google when you visit Youtube.
- natex 6y agoI don't understand this argument. Google is a subset of everyone.
- ekianjo 6y agoI think Google, as an entity, has a lot more power to collect a lot more data about everyone else in the world and do something with it than my neighbor sniffing my IP address when I visit a singular Peertube Instance. I'd like to hear your counter argument on that.
- judge2020 6y agoGetting "doxxed" by someone on a social media platform can have much more impactful real-world consequences than Google showing you more relevant ads thanks to knowing that you watched a video titled "the most reliable power tools".
- natex 6y agoWell, when I use youtube I am giving Google permission to use my data in a way described in their TOS. If they break those terms, I have recourse (e.g. lawsuit, legislation, bad PR, etc.) > do something with it than my neighbor sniffing my IP address when I visit a singular Peertube Instance. You're minimizing the risk of Peertube from _anyone in the world_ seeing my IP address to "a neighbor" in order to make your argument. Anyway, using Peertube, there is no TOS, no recourse, no privacy.
- ekianjo 6y ago> You're minimizing the risk of Peertube from _anyone in the world_ seeing my IP address to "a neighbor" in order to make your argument. Use a VPN with Peertube if that is your concern. Problem solved. > Anyway, using Peertube, there is no TOS, no recourse, no privacy. Just the mere fact that most of your traffic goes thru Google for search, videos, Google Analytics everywhere on 99% of websites out of the Google realm, makes my privacy a lot less meaningful when I know a single company has access to all of that info and that precise company can leak that data to every government out there asking for it without letting me know. By the way, has any individual sued Google for anything and won when it came to anything related to breach of privacy? Just the fact that it's extremely hard to prove that Google and nobody else leaked your information makes the possibility of legal action very remote to say the least.
- natex 6y ago> Use a VPN with Peertube if that is your concern. Problem solved. No. Don't twist things. That's not my actual concern and doesn't solve the problem that: Peertube exposes your IP to anyone who wants it. Don't you think people should know that? You responded with "whataboutgoogle?" Sure, setting up/maintaining/buying a VPN may be a solution for some Peertube users, as has been said a million times in this thread.
- tarkin2 6y agoOP is saying /anyone/, rather than just one very large corporation.
- MichaelApproved 6y agoEdit: kbutler explains the privacy issue below. Original question: Wouldn’t you already have the IP of someone visiting your website? The video is embedded on your own site, so you have all the info you need just from a regular page visit.
- Sieglend 6y agoYou would probably want to limit the number of people who can see it. It may be of interest to some groups to set-up peer servers to gain partial control and knowledge of the users and system
- kbutler 6y agoClient-server apps like YouTube reveal your IP to the server (Google). Peer-to-peer apps reveal your IP to any other peer in the network (anyone seeding, anyone else downloading, and anyone who wants to monitor by pretending to be a downloader).
- abdullahkhalids 6y agoCan you explain why exposing your IP is a problem or security issue? What is the attack I am exposed to because someone knows my IP address?
- SV_BubbleTime 6y agoWhat if the video on how to patch an extremely vulnerable router? I could be pretty sure that anyone watching that video was susceptible to this exploit at that time.
- ghj 6y agoViolates expectations of privacy. Anyone can reconstruct your watch history.
- natex 6y agoExposures vary based on network config and other factors, but this study by the Office of the Privacy Commissioner of Canada talks about specific data acquired via IP address. https://www.priv.gc.ca/en/opc-actions-and-decisions/research/explore-privacy-research/2013/ip_201305/ https://www.priv.gc.ca/en/opc-actions-and-decisions/research...
- abdullahkhalids 6y agoThis is a illuminating read. I think the example drives it home. --------- For example, the IP address of one individual Wikipedia contributor revealed that the person has: 1. Edited hundreds of pages on Wikipedia about television shows, both North American and international. The interest in TV shows was extensive and specific, but the details are not included here for privacy reasons; 2. Edited dozens of pages on Wikipedia related to history topics; 3. Participated in a discussion board about a television channel; and 4. Visited a site devoted to sexual preferences following an online search for a specific type of person.
- afkqs 6y agoI'm not too familiar with P2P technology but it seems that it's possible to set up vpn or onion routing between peers to avoid that.
- MaxBarraclough 6y agoHow is this implemented? Is there a feature in the browser that opens a TCP port to receive incoming connections? If so, how can I switch this off?
- zucker42 6y agoIt uses WebRTC, which you disable in your browser. However, it's also used for in browser video calls.
- vfclists 6y agoIf you computer is using a VPN will your private address be visible?