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YouTube’s unassailable feature is discovery. Would be great to see competition in video hosting though.

by ferros 6y ago

agumonkey 6y ago
one day jungle will be trendy again searching and being surprised is cool
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bryanrasmussen 6y ago
discovery is really a function of having all the content, so yes you cannot assail the function of having all the content until you have a significant amount of content.
- kevincox 6y ago
  Not necessarily. Some service could crawl a bunch of video sites and provide an index and set of recommendations.
  - Risse 6y ago
    I have been working on Peertube search index, and recommendations are definitely next in the to-do list https://peertube-search.com/ https://peertube-search.com/
    - robertlagrant 6y ago
      I went to English and got a load of Downfall parodies, followed by something to do with escaping the "Luciferean state". 2/10 would not recommend (yet).
    - ryan29 6y ago
      Maybe let creators follow and / or like each others videos, channels and use that to make semi-curated recommendations. The biggest issue with YouTube, etc. is the recommendations kind of suck and do a bad job of following my mood. If I'm watching tech stuff, I want more tech recommendations. If I'm watching news bloopers, I want other comedy themed stuff. There's a ton of potential in re-discovering curation given how terrible the web has gotten in general, so I think a type of decentralized, creator driven curation would be pretty cool.
mxuribe 6y ago
Discovery is often the big challenge with any federated, or even fully decentralized system. There are solutions out there of varying effectiveness. (Vague recollection makes me think of SearX - decentralized search engine - as one such option, but not sure if I'm remembering that correctly.)
ekianjo 6y ago
> YouTube’s unassailable feature is discovery. And discovery as managed by Google is built on massive collection of data on every individual.
- tracker1 6y ago
  It irks me to no end that stuff I watch on YouTube shows up in the articles/news in Google Assistant screen... The stuff I watch isn't necessarily the news I want to read.
MayeulC 6y ago
There is an ongoing crowdfunding campaign, to finance peertube's ongoing development. One of their goals for this year is discovery, with global search. https://joinpeertube.org/roadmap https://joinpeertube.org/roadmap
- Deukhoofd 6y ago
  And they added it in 2.3, last month. https://joinpeertube.org/news#release-2-3-0 https://joinpeertube.org/news#release-2-3-0
  - MayeulC 6y ago
    Ah, thank you, I had missed it. It is quite unfortunate that they don't have an RSS feed on that website. I just tried setting up https://kill-the-newsletter.com/ https://kill-the-newsletter.com/, we'll see how that goes... Unfortunately, I cannot share the generated feed here, as it's too similar to the inbox address.
wintermutestwin 6y ago
Seems like curation and curated discovery would be an easy way to assail google's discovery "feature," which is oftentimes obnoxious anyway.

YouTube’s unassailable feature is discovery. Would be great to see competition in video hosting though.

by ferros 6y ago

YouTube’s unassailable feature is discovery. Would be great to see competition in video hosting though.

agumonkey 6y ago

one day jungle will be trendy again searching and being surprised is cool

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bryanrasmussen 6y ago

discovery is really a function of having all the content, so yes you cannot assail the function of having all the content until you have a significant amount of content.

kevincox 6y ago
Not necessarily. Some service could crawl a bunch of video sites and provide an index and set of recommendations.
- Risse 6y ago
  I have been working on Peertube search index, and recommendations are definitely next in the to-do list https://peertube-search.com/ https://peertube-search.com/
  - robertlagrant 6y ago
    I went to English and got a load of Downfall parodies, followed by something to do with escaping the "Luciferean state". 2/10 would not recommend (yet).
  - ryan29 6y ago
    Maybe let creators follow and / or like each others videos, channels and use that to make semi-curated recommendations. The biggest issue with YouTube, etc. is the recommendations kind of suck and do a bad job of following my mood. If I'm watching tech stuff, I want more tech recommendations. If I'm watching news bloopers, I want other comedy themed stuff. There's a ton of potential in re-discovering curation given how terrible the web has gotten in general, so I think a type of decentralized, creator driven curation would be pretty cool.

mxuribe 6y ago

Discovery is often the big challenge with any federated, or even fully decentralized system. There are solutions out there of varying effectiveness. (Vague recollection makes me think of SearX - decentralized search engine - as one such option, but not sure if I'm remembering that correctly.)

ekianjo 6y ago

> YouTube’s unassailable feature is discovery. And discovery as managed by Google is built on massive collection of data on every individual.

tracker1 6y ago
It irks me to no end that stuff I watch on YouTube shows up in the articles/news in Google Assistant screen... The stuff I watch isn't necessarily the news I want to read.

MayeulC 6y ago

There is an ongoing crowdfunding campaign, to finance peertube's ongoing development. One of their goals for this year is discovery, with global search. https://joinpeertube.org/roadmap https://joinpeertube.org/roadmap

Deukhoofd 6y ago
And they added it in 2.3, last month. https://joinpeertube.org/news#release-2-3-0 https://joinpeertube.org/news#release-2-3-0
- MayeulC 6y ago
  Ah, thank you, I had missed it. It is quite unfortunate that they don't have an RSS feed on that website. I just tried setting up https://kill-the-newsletter.com/ https://kill-the-newsletter.com/, we'll see how that goes... Unfortunately, I cannot share the generated feed here, as it's too similar to the inbox address.

wintermutestwin 6y ago

Seems like curation and curated discovery would be an easy way to assail google's discovery "feature," which is oftentimes obnoxious anyway.