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Nobody can deny that macOS has the most integrated system especially if you own an iPhone/iPad/iWatch. However, for development, it's going to depend. Excluding

by csomar 6y ago

Nobody can deny that macOS has the most integrated system especially if you own an iPhone/iPad/iWatch. However, for development, it's going to depend. Excluding iOS/macOS development, the macOS is becoming less and less attractive even for web developers.

fastball 6y ago
I'm a web developer, and I just bought a new MBP. There is nothing (currently) that is pushing me away from Mac as my local dev machine. I can't remember the last time I ran an unsigned GUI app as part of my development workflow.
- AdmiralGinge 6y ago
  I'm a web developer using macOS on my home machine for personal projects. I use Linux at work so I'm familiar with both, I have no intention of dropping either in the near future. Both fill a particular niche for me while not requiring much cognitive overhead to switch between them. As long as they don't do anything spectacularly moronic like insisting on the mac App Store as the only source of software or preventing non-Apple OS's being run then I'm unlikely to get pissed off enough to leave the Apple ecosystem. "To each their own" is the key principle we're missing I think, personally my encounters with Windows have been by far the most frustrating and unproductive interactions with an OS, but some people wouldn't ever step their toes out of Microsoft land. I'm not sure how much of my dislike for Windows is because I'm simply too set in my *nix ways and how much is genuine bugginess and UI obtuseness as well.
cwhiz 6y ago
In your opinion, what is making it less attractive?
- csomar 6y ago
  Comparing to Linux: Tiling Window Manager, Package Manager, Much less apps/processes running on your system, Docker integration. It's also moving more toward an iOS like OS. On the downside, Linux still doesn't have an advanced GUI Git app and other cool stuff like Paw.
  - evross 6y ago
    I use gitAhead as daily git Gui on linux. It's fast to run. Has a lot of git features, maybe not all though. https://gitahead.github.io/gitahead.com/ https://gitahead.github.io/gitahead.com/
ArtDev 6y ago
Running Docker on Linux is absurdly faster than on a Mac or Windows. My experience was comparing a company-purchased $3500 new MBP with an old Windows gaming laptop running Linux Mint. On top of that, my old laptop originally cost 1/3 of the price of the Macbook Plus And didn't require a overloaded dongle because it actually has USB and HDMI ports.
- jerluc 6y ago
  Just a note about Docker performance on Linux vs. others: this is likely because Docker on Linux runs without virtualization as more or less a normal subprocess in a separate cgroups namespace. Windows and macOS must use a virtualization layer (e.g. VirtualBox) to run any Docker process, which for obvious reasons is going to be much less performant.

by csomar 6y ago

fastball 6y ago

I'm a web developer, and I just bought a new MBP. There is nothing (currently) that is pushing me away from Mac as my local dev machine. I can't remember the last time I ran an unsigned GUI app as part of my development workflow.

AdmiralGinge 6y ago
I'm a web developer using macOS on my home machine for personal projects. I use Linux at work so I'm familiar with both, I have no intention of dropping either in the near future. Both fill a particular niche for me while not requiring much cognitive overhead to switch between them. As long as they don't do anything spectacularly moronic like insisting on the mac App Store as the only source of software or preventing non-Apple OS's being run then I'm unlikely to get pissed off enough to leave the Apple ecosystem. "To each their own" is the key principle we're missing I think, personally my encounters with Windows have been by far the most frustrating and unproductive interactions with an OS, but some people wouldn't ever step their toes out of Microsoft land. I'm not sure how much of my dislike for Windows is because I'm simply too set in my *nix ways and how much is genuine bugginess and UI obtuseness as well.

cwhiz 6y ago

In your opinion, what is making it less attractive?

csomar 6y ago
Comparing to Linux: Tiling Window Manager, Package Manager, Much less apps/processes running on your system, Docker integration. It's also moving more toward an iOS like OS. On the downside, Linux still doesn't have an advanced GUI Git app and other cool stuff like Paw.
- evross 6y ago
  I use gitAhead as daily git Gui on linux. It's fast to run. Has a lot of git features, maybe not all though. https://gitahead.github.io/gitahead.com/ https://gitahead.github.io/gitahead.com/

ArtDev 6y ago

Running Docker on Linux is absurdly faster than on a Mac or Windows. My experience was comparing a company-purchased $3500 new MBP with an old Windows gaming laptop running Linux Mint. On top of that, my old laptop originally cost 1/3 of the price of the Macbook Plus And didn't require a overloaded dongle because it actually has USB and HDMI ports.

jerluc 6y ago
Just a note about Docker performance on Linux vs. others: this is likely because Docker on Linux runs without virtualization as more or less a normal subprocess in a separate cgroups namespace. Windows and macOS must use a virtualization layer (e.g. VirtualBox) to run any Docker process, which for obvious reasons is going to be much less performant.