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PWAs are terrible, but that debate has nothing on the real gem here: > ...Then why does Apple advertise its products using Google Ads? Congratulations, this c

PWAs are terrible, but that debate has nothing on the real gem here: > ...Then why does Apple advertise its products using Google Ads? Congratulations, this cracks top 5 oddest Apple hater argument ever posted in this land of many of 'em.

Abishek_Muthian 6y ago
Hate is a very strong word, something which I wouldn't give a private business luxury of buying from me. If you could give a justifiable answer to what you've quoted from me, I'm all ears.
- olliej 6y ago
  Google has a functional monopoly on online advertising, so you’re options for online advertising are google and Facebook, or ad companies that primarily have scams. Seriously it’s just google, Facebook, and then things like taboola, and the most popular sites on the web are 100% google ads only. Apple’s alternative to google ads is essentially no online advertising.
thinkloop 6y ago
> PWAs are terrible Why again? In the world of silos and proprietary platforms it's an absolute godsend that PWAs even exist.
- rimliu 6y ago
  You know, I grew up in USSR. There were no western made cars, only soviet ones: Ladas (based on 40 years old FIAT), Volgas, the dreaded Moskvich or Zaporozhets. Volgas were for the elite and not really accessible for the ordinary citizens, so Lada was it. And it seemed to be a fine car—because you did not know any better. Yes you had to reassemble it yourself after you bought one to make sure it does not fall apart on the road, but otherwise the seemed fine. That's till the USSR collapsed and western old cars markets got accessible. Almost all soviet cars were replaced by the old, mostly German, ones. Why? Because poeple saw the differenece. And the saw that even 15-20 years old Audi, BMW or Opel were still waaay better than brand new soviet crap. So yeah, there are thing that may seem fine till you hava a chance to compare them to the truly fine.
jamil7 6y ago
Interesting to see PWAs being proposed as the ultimate alternative on HN all the time. Questions of quality etc. aside it's essentially Google's platform that they're pushing for via standards that benefit them and their goal of the web as a platform they control. While Apple wants dominance over their walled garden, Google wants total dominance over the web.

Abishek_Muthian 6y ago

Hate is a very strong word, something which I wouldn't give a private business luxury of buying from me. If you could give a justifiable answer to what you've quoted from me, I'm all ears.

olliej 6y ago
Google has a functional monopoly on online advertising, so you’re options for online advertising are google and Facebook, or ad companies that primarily have scams. Seriously it’s just google, Facebook, and then things like taboola, and the most popular sites on the web are 100% google ads only. Apple’s alternative to google ads is essentially no online advertising.

thinkloop 6y ago

> PWAs are terrible Why again? In the world of silos and proprietary platforms it's an absolute godsend that PWAs even exist.

rimliu 6y ago
You know, I grew up in USSR. There were no western made cars, only soviet ones: Ladas (based on 40 years old FIAT), Volgas, the dreaded Moskvich or Zaporozhets. Volgas were for the elite and not really accessible for the ordinary citizens, so Lada was it. And it seemed to be a fine car—because you did not know any better. Yes you had to reassemble it yourself after you bought one to make sure it does not fall apart on the road, but otherwise the seemed fine. That's till the USSR collapsed and western old cars markets got accessible. Almost all soviet cars were replaced by the old, mostly German, ones. Why? Because poeple saw the differenece. And the saw that even 15-20 years old Audi, BMW or Opel were still waaay better than brand new soviet crap. So yeah, there are thing that may seem fine till you hava a chance to compare them to the truly fine.

jamil7 6y ago

Interesting to see PWAs being proposed as the ultimate alternative on HN all the time. Questions of quality etc. aside it's essentially Google's platform that they're pushing for via standards that benefit them and their goal of the web as a platform they control. While Apple wants dominance over their walled garden, Google wants total dominance over the web.