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Having "stripclub" in the title of your talk is pretty unprofessional. To their credit, though, 3/10 of the speakers at LessConf are women. http://lessconf.les

by psawaya 16y ago

Having "stripclub" in the title of your talk is pretty unprofessional. To their credit, though, 3/10 of the speakers at LessConf are women. http://lessconf.lesseverything.com/ http://lessconf.lesseverything.com/ That's a better ratio than at most tech events. I think they're more guilty of being flippant than deliberately sexist.

jamesbritt 16y ago
Having "stripclub" in the title of your talk is pretty unprofessional. Why? Perhaps it's not your thing, but there are plenty of people, both patrons and employees, who see expressions of sexuality as normal and fun. And if you think that having women or men dance around and disrobe encourages others to think of women or men as little more than sex objects then the problem is with those ignorant people who foolishly extrapolate from what some individuals do to entire populations.
- Lazlo_Nibble 16y ago
  There are very few professional settings where expressions of sexuality are seen as normal and fun. That's what "unprofessional" means.
  - jamesbritt 16y ago
    There are very few professional settings where expressions of sexuality are seen as normal and fun. OK, I'll grant that actually stripping at most work places would be bad form. But mentioning strip clubs? Referring to them? Depends I suppose on the country and local prudishness. It's not normally itself considered an expression of sexuality. That's what "unprofessional" means. You're just begging the question here.
    - Lazlo_Nibble 16y ago
      I would look at it this way: say you've started a new job. You've been told that you're expected to behave "professionally", but not given any specific guidance as to what that means in this company. You're seated at the head of a large table in a conference room, with a mixed audience of people who work for the company. You don't know who any of them are or what they do -- they could plausibly be anyone from mailroom people to senior executives. You're asked to introduce yourself. Under these circumstances would you, with no prompting from your audience, consider it "professional" to start talking about your interest in strip clubs?
      - jamesbritt 16y ago
        Under these circumstances would you, with no prompting from your audience, consider it "professional" to start talking about your interest in strip clubs? It would be no more or less professional than mentioning playing in a death metal band on weekends or being a volunteer at an atheist outreach group or helping organize protests to support gay rights. Any reticence would be based on how professional I thought the others were, and if I thought I would be at a disadvantage because of narrow-minded prejudice about things that have no bearing on my work.

by psawaya 16y ago

jamesbritt 16y ago

Having "stripclub" in the title of your talk is pretty unprofessional. Why? Perhaps it's not your thing, but there are plenty of people, both patrons and employees, who see expressions of sexuality as normal and fun. And if you think that having women or men dance around and disrobe encourages others to think of women or men as little more than sex objects then the problem is with those ignorant people who foolishly extrapolate from what some individuals do to entire populations.

Lazlo_Nibble 16y ago
There are very few professional settings where expressions of sexuality are seen as normal and fun. That's what "unprofessional" means.
- jamesbritt 16y ago
  There are very few professional settings where expressions of sexuality are seen as normal and fun. OK, I'll grant that actually stripping at most work places would be bad form. But mentioning strip clubs? Referring to them? Depends I suppose on the country and local prudishness. It's not normally itself considered an expression of sexuality. That's what "unprofessional" means. You're just begging the question here.
  - Lazlo_Nibble 16y ago
    I would look at it this way: say you've started a new job. You've been told that you're expected to behave "professionally", but not given any specific guidance as to what that means in this company. You're seated at the head of a large table in a conference room, with a mixed audience of people who work for the company. You don't know who any of them are or what they do -- they could plausibly be anyone from mailroom people to senior executives. You're asked to introduce yourself. Under these circumstances would you, with no prompting from your audience, consider it "professional" to start talking about your interest in strip clubs?
    - jamesbritt 16y ago
      Under these circumstances would you, with no prompting from your audience, consider it "professional" to start talking about your interest in strip clubs? It would be no more or less professional than mentioning playing in a death metal band on weekends or being a volunteer at an atheist outreach group or helping organize protests to support gay rights. Any reticence would be based on how professional I thought the others were, and if I thought I would be at a disadvantage because of narrow-minded prejudice about things that have no bearing on my work.