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I suppose you could argue that with PLO, but not Hamas. They are in complete control of Gaza have been since 2007. They could have held elections there anytim

I suppose you could argue that with PLO, but not Hamas. They are in complete control of Gaza have been since 2007. They could have held elections there anytime they wanted to. But they won't.

sudosysgen 6y ago
According to Wikipedia : > Despite the 2005 Israeli disengagement from Gaza,[21] the United Nations, international human rights organisations, and the majority of governments and legal commentators consider the territory to be still occupied by Israel, supported by additional restrictions placed on Gaza by Egypt. Israel maintains direct external control over Gaza and indirect control over life within Gaza: it controls Gaza's air and maritime space, and six of Gaza's seven land crossings. It reserves the right to enter Gaza at will with its military and maintains a no-go buffer zone within the Gaza territory. Gaza is dependent on Israel for its water, electricity, telecommunications, and other utilities.[21] The system of control imposed by Israel is described as an "indirect occupation". https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Strip https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Strip That being said, the occupation of Palestine nominally under PlO control is sufficient so that Israel is not a democracy.
- sbmthakur 6y ago
  The US and UK won't be democratic by the same reasoning because they have "occupied" parts of Cuba and Argentina respectively. Not to forget that rockets are routinely fired into Israel from Gaza. So, it seems Israel has good reasons to exercise that kind of control over Gaza.
  - sudosysgen 6y ago
    If the citizens in the Falklands or Guantanamo weren't allowed to vote, you would have a point, however they are allowed to vote, so you don't have a point. The standard is occupation of a territory without giving them or its inhabitants the right to vote.

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I suppose you could argue that with PLO, but not Hamas. They are in complete control of Gaza have been since 2007. They could have held elections there anytim

by starik36 6y ago

I suppose you could argue that with PLO, but not Hamas. They are in complete control of Gaza have been since 2007. They could have held elections there anytime they wanted to. But they won't.

sudosysgen 6y ago
According to Wikipedia : > Despite the 2005 Israeli disengagement from Gaza,[21] the United Nations, international human rights organisations, and the majority of governments and legal commentators consider the territory to be still occupied by Israel, supported by additional restrictions placed on Gaza by Egypt. Israel maintains direct external control over Gaza and indirect control over life within Gaza: it controls Gaza's air and maritime space, and six of Gaza's seven land crossings. It reserves the right to enter Gaza at will with its military and maintains a no-go buffer zone within the Gaza territory. Gaza is dependent on Israel for its water, electricity, telecommunications, and other utilities.[21] The system of control imposed by Israel is described as an "indirect occupation". https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Strip https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Strip That being said, the occupation of Palestine nominally under PlO control is sufficient so that Israel is not a democracy.
- sbmthakur 6y ago
  The US and UK won't be democratic by the same reasoning because they have "occupied" parts of Cuba and Argentina respectively. Not to forget that rockets are routinely fired into Israel from Gaza. So, it seems Israel has good reasons to exercise that kind of control over Gaza.
  - sudosysgen 6y ago
    If the citizens in the Falklands or Guantanamo weren't allowed to vote, you would have a point, however they are allowed to vote, so you don't have a point. The standard is occupation of a territory without giving them or its inhabitants the right to vote.