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It absolutely is a cash grab, and part of a series of unethical behaviour from Apple. Since the latest awful hardware products (terrible keyboard, control stri

It absolutely is a cash grab, and part of a series of unethical behaviour from Apple. Since the latest awful hardware products (terrible keyboard, control strip thing that breaks, no escape key) with MacBooks and a great improvement with using Linux via Purism and System76 I've managed to move away from Apple.

Shared404 6y ago
> great improvement with using Linux via Purism and System76 I look forward to the day when I can afford a System76 laptop.
- suzakus 6y ago
  They look to be in the same price ballpark as Macbooks? Ref: https://system76.com/laptops https://system76.com/laptops
  - Shared404 6y ago
    Can't afford a Macbook either. :)
    - dividedbyzero 6y ago
      Understandable, it's a crazy lot of money.
FabHK 6y ago
> latest awful hardware The latest round fixed all of these problems.
- turblety 6y ago
  So do I get my money back from all the problems with the last generation?
dividedbyzero 6y ago
The newest iteration of Macbooks has a very nice new keyboard (no butterfly mechanics anymore) that reminds me of the really old models, better than my 2013 model IMO, one of the best in a laptop that I've used, though it doesn't beat the really old Thinkpad ones; those were incredible. Of course, this sort of thing is a matter of taste to some degree, but my private 2020 13" and my work 2018 13" are several worlds apart, they've really fixed that issue for me. There's also a physical ESC key now, and for me, personally, the touchbar is a pretty neat feature after a bit of getting used to it, and some tweaking. No idea if it is prone to fail, but I believe the rather sizeable fleet of touchbar Macbooks at work hasn't had a broken touchbar yet (there have been other failures) I've yet to see anyone get a Linux machine and not struggle with something; maybe that'll happen someday soon, but so far everyone seems to have issues that I'd find unacceptable.

Shared404 6y ago

> great improvement with using Linux via Purism and System76 I look forward to the day when I can afford a System76 laptop.

suzakus 6y ago
They look to be in the same price ballpark as Macbooks? Ref: https://system76.com/laptops https://system76.com/laptops
- Shared404 6y ago
  Can't afford a Macbook either. :)
  - dividedbyzero 6y ago
    Understandable, it's a crazy lot of money.

FabHK 6y ago

> latest awful hardware The latest round fixed all of these problems.

turblety 6y ago
So do I get my money back from all the problems with the last generation?

dividedbyzero 6y ago

The newest iteration of Macbooks has a very nice new keyboard (no butterfly mechanics anymore) that reminds me of the really old models, better than my 2013 model IMO, one of the best in a laptop that I've used, though it doesn't beat the really old Thinkpad ones; those were incredible. Of course, this sort of thing is a matter of taste to some degree, but my private 2020 13" and my work 2018 13" are several worlds apart, they've really fixed that issue for me. There's also a physical ESC key now, and for me, personally, the touchbar is a pretty neat feature after a bit of getting used to it, and some tweaking. No idea if it is prone to fail, but I believe the rather sizeable fleet of touchbar Macbooks at work hasn't had a broken touchbar yet (there have been other failures) I've yet to see anyone get a Linux machine and not struggle with something; maybe that'll happen someday soon, but so far everyone seems to have issues that I'd find unacceptable.