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> How exactly would Americans feel for that country later? 30% of our country doesn't see Russia as a threat, with some going as far as wearing "I’d rather be
by dsl 6y ago
> How exactly would Americans feel for that country later?
30% of our country doesn't see Russia as a threat, with some going as far as wearing "I’d rather be a Russian than a Democrat" t-shirts in public.
- coldtea 6y agoThat's partly because Russia didn't do anything much - and nothing compared to toppling a government. The democratic party latched on that story to exlain their failure, using as an excuse the same kind of internet ops the US (and tons of others) do all the time all over the world, and which in Russia's case were insignificant anyway... As if the US is some poor little country manipulated by the mighty Russia...
- mullingitover 6y ago> That's partly because Russia didn't do anything much - and nothing compared to toppling a government. Russia wasn't trying to topple the US. It just wanted to weaken its international coalitions (check), eliminate its diplomatic soft power (check) and eliminate the aggressive posture the US had toward Russian expansion (check).
- YarickR2 6y agoWell, what did US do to Russia during late 90s-early noughts ? Check, check, check .
- 082349872349872 6y agoI was going to say EN wikipedia goes on at great length how Yeltsin's american campaign consultants had very little influence on the campaign, but now https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Russian_presidential_election#Allegations_of_American_interference https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Russian_presidential_elec... no longer even mentions them. :))))) The interested might have to try contemporary sources, e.g. http://content.time.com/time/magazine/0,9263,7601960715,00.html http://content.time.com/time/magazine/0,9263,7601960715,00.h... Bonus track (1996 in russian pop): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBo5DxhJ12w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBo5DxhJ12w
- croes 6y agoRussia didn't have to do anything. The GOP weakend the coalitions and the diplomatic softpower by threatening their partners. And the last time I checked the sanctions against russia are still in place.
- TallGuyShort 6y agoIs it so hard to accept that the Democrats have been nominating some weak-ass candidates that don't have the broad appeal they think they do?
- MrZongle2 6y agoCertainly it can't be that. It has to be external forces at work!
- throwawaytrump2 6y agoVoting in the US has never been fully democratized. Apologies, dang. You're right of course. No good excuse–it's been hot.
- dang 6y agoPlease don't use HN for partisan flamewar. It's predictable, therefore tedious, therefore off topic here. Please don't create accounts to break HN's guidelines with. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- rat9988 6y agoFrom the same guidelines: >Be kind. Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine. This is not the first time I see you needlessly accusing a point of view you disagree with of flamewar.
- dang 6y agoI'm always happy to get advice about how to better follow the guidelines, but I'm not seeing what I can improve there, except perhaps s/exceedingly predictable/predictable/, which I'll do. Btw, the GP comment was edited after I replied to it. Not sure if that affects things.
- jamroom 6y agoDonald Trump lost the popular vote, so as a candidate was “weaker” than Hillary Clinton.