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I can't help but feel that many of the dismissive comments here must be either from folks without kids, or from people that got lucky with a well-mannered child

by pyzon 6y ago

I can't help but feel that many of the dismissive comments here must be either from folks without kids, or from people that got lucky with a well-mannered child. You think those good manners were all your amazing parenting? You probably deserve some credit, but I think you also lucked out more than you realize. Haven't you seen parents with multiple kids and those kids have wildly different dispositions? I urge you to have more empathy with parents and kids. Kids handling remote learning badly is such a pervasive complaint right now that it defies logic that all of these parents are bad parents.

james_s_tayler 6y ago
Ah... this. So much this.
codingdave 6y ago
> Haven't you seen parents with multiple kids and those kids have wildly different dispositions? Agreed - I have three kids. One is going to her school in-person. Another sits on the couch on his laptop for 4 straight hours until he gets his work done, and refuses to take a break. The last one works in 20-30 minutes sessions, doing screen time, then taking a break. If I were to force any one of them to work like the others, it would go badly. Different people, different ways to work.
icelancer 6y ago
Yep. There's variance. I have one kid who can crush online classes sporadically and do tons of heads-down work with minimal supervision and is just six years old. The other one is almost ten and is on ADHD medication, has borderline personality disorder issues, and while very intelligent, has problems with authority and can't focus online very well. There's a huge randomness factor that goes into everything, including having kids. It's not deterministic.
pm24601 6y ago
I so agree. My youngest was proud when they came home with "red lights". The other child was devastated when the teacher looked at her cross-eyed. The youngest one is very very indifferent to peer pressure. They don't give a sh!t what anyone else in their classroom thinks of them.
isabelc 6y ago
Yes. Anyone with more than one child will know that the main thing we know about kids is that "no two are alike."

by pyzon 6y ago

james_s_tayler 6y ago

Ah... this. So much this.

codingdave 6y ago

> Haven't you seen parents with multiple kids and those kids have wildly different dispositions? Agreed - I have three kids. One is going to her school in-person. Another sits on the couch on his laptop for 4 straight hours until he gets his work done, and refuses to take a break. The last one works in 20-30 minutes sessions, doing screen time, then taking a break. If I were to force any one of them to work like the others, it would go badly. Different people, different ways to work.

icelancer 6y ago

Yep. There's variance. I have one kid who can crush online classes sporadically and do tons of heads-down work with minimal supervision and is just six years old. The other one is almost ten and is on ADHD medication, has borderline personality disorder issues, and while very intelligent, has problems with authority and can't focus online very well. There's a huge randomness factor that goes into everything, including having kids. It's not deterministic.

pm24601 6y ago

I so agree. My youngest was proud when they came home with "red lights". The other child was devastated when the teacher looked at her cross-eyed. The youngest one is very very indifferent to peer pressure. They don't give a sh!t what anyone else in their classroom thinks of them.

isabelc 6y ago

Yes. Anyone with more than one child will know that the main thing we know about kids is that "no two are alike."