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> The wars continue and new ones are started. What new wars have been started under the current administration?

dbtc 6y ago
I think maybe there aren't new or old wars anymore, just a single continuous amorphous conflict, against terrorism or whatever.
- totalZero 6y ago
  To my knowledge Trump hasn't stepped outside the conflicts engaged by his predecessor. According to Bolton's book, Trump called off a strike on Iranian military facilities after a US drone was downed by Iran, because he didn't believe that the US should kill Iranians over the loss of a robot. Even the killing of Soleimani took place in Baghdad, where Soleimani (himself a commander of insurgent forces) was meeting with an Iraqi commander of insurgent forces. Hard to argue that this act fell outside the confines of the Congressionally authorized war in Iraq.
  - dbtc 6y ago
    Are Yemen and Somalia part of the congressionally authorized war in Iraq? It's not Trump's endless war, it's America's.
  - dragonwriter 6y ago
    > Hard to argue that this act fell outside the confines of the Congressionally authorized war in Iraq. Congress didn't authorize war “in Iraq”, but to protect against threats from Iraq (in context of the resolution, pretty clearly the State not the geographical area.)
Zenst 6y ago
> What new wars have been started under the current administration? Many an internet flame-war, that's for sure. But then - how do you define war. The stage of official declaration all to arms type wars seem to be less clear-cut. Economics has and always will be the biggest weapon of wars these days.
- totalZero 6y ago
  I'd probably refer to Obama's actions in Syria as an engagement of war. (I'm not saying he was right or wrong to go there, because I don't know all the facts about the Syria conflict.) I probably wouldn't refer to Trump's twitter commentary as warfare, inflammatory and counterproductive though it may be.

dbtc 6y ago

I think maybe there aren't new or old wars anymore, just a single continuous amorphous conflict, against terrorism or whatever.

totalZero 6y ago
To my knowledge Trump hasn't stepped outside the conflicts engaged by his predecessor. According to Bolton's book, Trump called off a strike on Iranian military facilities after a US drone was downed by Iran, because he didn't believe that the US should kill Iranians over the loss of a robot. Even the killing of Soleimani took place in Baghdad, where Soleimani (himself a commander of insurgent forces) was meeting with an Iraqi commander of insurgent forces. Hard to argue that this act fell outside the confines of the Congressionally authorized war in Iraq.
- dbtc 6y ago
  Are Yemen and Somalia part of the congressionally authorized war in Iraq? It's not Trump's endless war, it's America's.
- dragonwriter 6y ago
  > Hard to argue that this act fell outside the confines of the Congressionally authorized war in Iraq. Congress didn't authorize war “in Iraq”, but to protect against threats from Iraq (in context of the resolution, pretty clearly the State not the geographical area.)

Zenst 6y ago

> What new wars have been started under the current administration? Many an internet flame-war, that's for sure. But then - how do you define war. The stage of official declaration all to arms type wars seem to be less clear-cut. Economics has and always will be the biggest weapon of wars these days.

totalZero 6y ago
I'd probably refer to Obama's actions in Syria as an engagement of war. (I'm not saying he was right or wrong to go there, because I don't know all the facts about the Syria conflict.) I probably wouldn't refer to Trump's twitter commentary as warfare, inflammatory and counterproductive though it may be.