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How isolated are you? You only eat food you've stored? You've been doing that the last 4 months? If you go to the grocery store or receive deliveries, you're n

How isolated are you? You only eat food you've stored? You've been doing that the last 4 months? If you go to the grocery store or receive deliveries, you're not isolated, and government policy that reduces viral spread benefits you.

hammock 6y ago
Curious, is there a documented case of community spread of COVID via a grocery store or grocery delivery?
- komali2 6y ago
  > The virus that causes COVID-19 is thought to spread mainly from person to person, mainly through respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs, sneezes, or talks. These droplets can land in the mouths or noses of people who are nearby or possibly be inhaled into the lungs. Spread is more likely when people are in close contact with one another (within about 6 feet). https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/faq.html#Spread https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/faq.html#Spread What, without evidence of it ever spreading from one person to another in a grocery store, you believe it isn't possible? Is extrapolating the knowledge of how it spreads to the possibility of encountering that situation in a grocery store not viable here? Shall we wait for evidence of spread in every single possible permutation of leaving the house before we consider such an activity potentially dangerous? I was challenging isolation. I go grocery shopping - I think it can be done safely. But, I wouldn't do it if I lived in some red state full of pandemic deniers with huge spread rates - it's too dangerous. In my area, everyone wears masks, everyone makes sure to social distance, so it's not as much of a risk. But I acknowledge that I'm not isolated, and that was the claim that was made.
  - hammock 6y ago
    >What, without evidence of it ever spreading from one person to another in a grocery store, you believe it isn't possible? We have extensive contract tracing now in every state in the US, and around the world. I would think it wouldn't be that hard to show. Were you able to find any cases?
    - strbean 6y ago
      You want contact tracers to compile a database of the exact times every person with COVID was in a grocery store? This reeks of bad faith argument.
      - hammock 6y ago
        Maybe I don't understand what contract tracers do. Do they not (attempt to) map out every place and person contacted?
    - komali2 6y ago
      We don't have extensive contact tracing. I've never once engaged with a contact tracing application, nor anybody that I know. You failed to answer my previous question: is it impossible to extrapolate knowledge of how the virus spreads, to judge risk of various scenarios? Do you require evidence from every permutation of possible activity?

hammock 6y ago

Curious, is there a documented case of community spread of COVID via a grocery store or grocery delivery?

komali2 6y ago
> The virus that causes COVID-19 is thought to spread mainly from person to person, mainly through respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs, sneezes, or talks. These droplets can land in the mouths or noses of people who are nearby or possibly be inhaled into the lungs. Spread is more likely when people are in close contact with one another (within about 6 feet). https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/faq.html#Spread https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/faq.html#Spread What, without evidence of it ever spreading from one person to another in a grocery store, you believe it isn't possible? Is extrapolating the knowledge of how it spreads to the possibility of encountering that situation in a grocery store not viable here? Shall we wait for evidence of spread in every single possible permutation of leaving the house before we consider such an activity potentially dangerous? I was challenging isolation. I go grocery shopping - I think it can be done safely. But, I wouldn't do it if I lived in some red state full of pandemic deniers with huge spread rates - it's too dangerous. In my area, everyone wears masks, everyone makes sure to social distance, so it's not as much of a risk. But I acknowledge that I'm not isolated, and that was the claim that was made.
- hammock 6y ago
  >What, without evidence of it ever spreading from one person to another in a grocery store, you believe it isn't possible? We have extensive contract tracing now in every state in the US, and around the world. I would think it wouldn't be that hard to show. Were you able to find any cases?
  - strbean 6y ago
    You want contact tracers to compile a database of the exact times every person with COVID was in a grocery store? This reeks of bad faith argument.
    - hammock 6y ago
      Maybe I don't understand what contract tracers do. Do they not (attempt to) map out every place and person contacted?
  - komali2 6y ago
    We don't have extensive contact tracing. I've never once engaged with a contact tracing application, nor anybody that I know. You failed to answer my previous question: is it impossible to extrapolate knowledge of how the virus spreads, to judge risk of various scenarios? Do you require evidence from every permutation of possible activity?