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“The slow one now will later be fast cause the times they are a changing” -Bob Dylan It is apparent that Apple has been successful financially and has reached

“The slow one now will later be fast cause the times they are a changing” -Bob Dylan It is apparent that Apple has been successful financially and has reached new heights but I don’t think this can continue for much longer. We are hanging on longer and longer to the iPhone and the services (namely Apple Music when compared to Spotify) Apple offers are less exciting than their competition. AirPods have become and ubiquitous sign of the technological times where people buy on brand and not on quality or functionality (plus they’re ugly imo). Where does Apple go from here? They can’t keep making iPhones and pissing developers off forever. They must either rise to a new zenith from a pure business standpoint (new products, cannibalize the old) or in several years time people will begin really thinking critically and realizing that while the Apple brand is “superior” that the technology is not. I tell you all this typing on my iPhone X... I’ve owned iPhones since 2010. But they times are a changing.

scarface74 6y ago
It is apparent that Apple has been successful financially and has reached new heights but I don’t think this can continue for much longer. People have been declaring the death of Apple since the mid 80s. I was around then with my Apple //e. We are hanging on longer and longer to the iPhone and the services (namely Apple Music when compared to Spotify Yet and still Apple Music is growing faster than Spotify, service revenue is growing like crazy, and Apple doesn’t have to spend a hundred millions of dollars to get one person on their platform (Joe Rogan) Where does Apple go from here? They can’t keep making iPhones and pissing developers off forever. Developers really overstate their role. Developers go where the money is. Most of the money from the App Store comes from loot boxes and whales buying virtual currency. Developers have been jumping through larger hoops for over 4 decades developing for consoles. I’m sure people asked where does Apple go from here since they introduced the Apple // in 40 years. Apple has shown an ability to evolve. AirPods have become and ubiquitous sign of the technological times where people buy on brand and not on quality or functionality (plus they’re ugly imo). People have been accusing Apple to sell on brand for two decades. Now, but especially when iOS 14 comes out, the integration between AirPods, iPads, iPhones, Apple Watch and to a lesser extent the AppleTV is second to none. Yeah, I have all of them.... Maybe you don’t have the pulse on what the consumer wants? I’ve seen analysts who believe that the AirPods by themselves are larger in terms of revenue than the iPod was at its peak. They must either rise to a new zenith from a pure business standpoint (new products, cannibalize the old) Has Apple ever shown an unwillingness to cannibalize it’s own products? Microsoft for instance has been one of the five most valuable companies for 20 years. This is not rah rah Apple. The only one of the five big tech companies that have shown an ability to evolve and diversify over the past 10-15 years is Google.
- spideymans 6y ago
  >The only one of the five big tech companies that have shown an ability to evolve and diversify over the past 10-15 years is Google. Google has a diversified offering of products, but don't all of those products ultimately feed their advertising business?
  - scarface74 6y ago
    They are completely dependent on ads. 95% of their profit comes from ads. Compare that to Apple’s revenue mix. I know it’s not exactly comparable (revenue vs profit), but no one can argue that Apple doesn’t have margins on all of its products. https://images.app.goo.gl/Z2ragT21ubHEPQNb8 https://images.app.goo.gl/Z2ragT21ubHEPQNb8
gpanders 6y ago
> AirPods have become and ubiquitous sign of the technological times where people buy on brand and not on quality or functionality (plus they’re ugly imo). Interesting that you say this. I don't own any myself, but my general impression from people that do is that the AirPods are the top of the class for wireless earphones.
ajb92 6y ago
> They can’t keep making iPhones and pissing developers off forever. As much as I wish this were true, I'd wager they'll be able to keep doing so. > [...] or in several years time people will begin really thinking critically and realizing that while the Apple brand is “superior” that the technology is not. ...you must have more faith in people than I.
askafriend 6y ago
> AirPods have become and ubiquitous sign of the technological times where people buy on brand and not on quality or functionality (plus they’re ugly imo). You don't understand the product. I bought it because: * I don't think they're ugly. * The functionality and convenience is unparalleled. They nailed the balance and it's one of my favorite products in the last decade - period. If I lost mine, I'd buy some again no questions asked. The iPhone is a multi-decade product. We've only seen the first decade. It'll serve as the foundation of Apple for decades to come. It's obvious to me and I have real money behind it. I think you're missing the big picture and you'll probably pay for it in missed opportunity (I've been hearing something similar to your opinion every quarter since 2012 and have ignored it every time)
eqtn 6y ago
>AirPods have become....people buy on brand and not on quality or functionality You should watch Verge review of oneplus buds where they compare Onplus buds and Airpods. https://youtu.be/hWn6QAcm-94 https://youtu.be/hWn6QAcm-94 The receiver call quality is better than 1000MX3

scarface74 6y ago

It is apparent that Apple has been successful financially and has reached new heights but I don’t think this can continue for much longer. People have been declaring the death of Apple since the mid 80s. I was around then with my Apple //e. We are hanging on longer and longer to the iPhone and the services (namely Apple Music when compared to Spotify Yet and still Apple Music is growing faster than Spotify, service revenue is growing like crazy, and Apple doesn’t have to spend a hundred millions of dollars to get one person on their platform (Joe Rogan) Where does Apple go from here? They can’t keep making iPhones and pissing developers off forever. Developers really overstate their role. Developers go where the money is. Most of the money from the App Store comes from loot boxes and whales buying virtual currency. Developers have been jumping through larger hoops for over 4 decades developing for consoles. I’m sure people asked where does Apple go from here since they introduced the Apple // in 40 years. Apple has shown an ability to evolve. AirPods have become and ubiquitous sign of the technological times where people buy on brand and not on quality or functionality (plus they’re ugly imo). People have been accusing Apple to sell on brand for two decades. Now, but especially when iOS 14 comes out, the integration between AirPods, iPads, iPhones, Apple Watch and to a lesser extent the AppleTV is second to none. Yeah, I have all of them.... Maybe you don’t have the pulse on what the consumer wants? I’ve seen analysts who believe that the AirPods by themselves are larger in terms of revenue than the iPod was at its peak. They must either rise to a new zenith from a pure business standpoint (new products, cannibalize the old) Has Apple ever shown an unwillingness to cannibalize it’s own products? Microsoft for instance has been one of the five most valuable companies for 20 years. This is not rah rah Apple. The only one of the five big tech companies that have shown an ability to evolve and diversify over the past 10-15 years is Google.

spideymans 6y ago
>The only one of the five big tech companies that have shown an ability to evolve and diversify over the past 10-15 years is Google. Google has a diversified offering of products, but don't all of those products ultimately feed their advertising business?
- scarface74 6y ago
  They are completely dependent on ads. 95% of their profit comes from ads. Compare that to Apple’s revenue mix. I know it’s not exactly comparable (revenue vs profit), but no one can argue that Apple doesn’t have margins on all of its products. https://images.app.goo.gl/Z2ragT21ubHEPQNb8 https://images.app.goo.gl/Z2ragT21ubHEPQNb8

gpanders 6y ago

> AirPods have become and ubiquitous sign of the technological times where people buy on brand and not on quality or functionality (plus they’re ugly imo). Interesting that you say this. I don't own any myself, but my general impression from people that do is that the AirPods are the top of the class for wireless earphones.

ajb92 6y ago

> They can’t keep making iPhones and pissing developers off forever. As much as I wish this were true, I'd wager they'll be able to keep doing so. > [...] or in several years time people will begin really thinking critically and realizing that while the Apple brand is “superior” that the technology is not. ...you must have more faith in people than I.

askafriend 6y ago

> AirPods have become and ubiquitous sign of the technological times where people buy on brand and not on quality or functionality (plus they’re ugly imo). You don't understand the product. I bought it because: * I don't think they're ugly. * The functionality and convenience is unparalleled. They nailed the balance and it's one of my favorite products in the last decade - period. If I lost mine, I'd buy some again no questions asked. The iPhone is a multi-decade product. We've only seen the first decade. It'll serve as the foundation of Apple for decades to come. It's obvious to me and I have real money behind it. I think you're missing the big picture and you'll probably pay for it in missed opportunity (I've been hearing something similar to your opinion every quarter since 2012 and have ignored it every time)

eqtn 6y ago

>AirPods have become....people buy on brand and not on quality or functionality You should watch Verge review of oneplus buds where they compare Onplus buds and Airpods. https://youtu.be/hWn6QAcm-94 https://youtu.be/hWn6QAcm-94 The receiver call quality is better than 1000MX3