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This is the first step only. I remember in 1995 Stallman wanted Emacs to be "like Microsoft Word" with varying fonts and other formatting shit with hidden Tex-c

This is the first step only. I remember in 1995 Stallman wanted Emacs to be "like Microsoft Word" with varying fonts and other formatting shit with hidden Tex-coding. Do it.

hprotagonist 6y ago
o-org-mode?
- marci 6y ago
  customized like this https://lepisma.xyz/2017/10/28/ricing-org-mode/ https://lepisma.xyz/2017/10/28/ricing-org-mode/ or like this https://github.com/rougier/elegant-emacs https://github.com/rougier/elegant-emacs
  - znpy 6y ago
    > like this https://github.com/rougier/elegant-emacs https://github.com/rougier/elegant-emacs OMG that is beautiful
skocznymroczny 6y ago
So like LyX?
- timonoko 6y ago
  I guess so. Me no Stallman, but I want standard Emacs with graphical Lyx-mode.
- JadeNB 6y ago
  Or perhaps TeXmacs? http://texmacs.org/tmweb/home/welcome.en.html http://texmacs.org/tmweb/home/welcome.en.html
Pelic4n 6y ago
Stallman is delusional and his push to make Emacs a WYSIWYG editor almost killed it.
- timonoko 6y ago
  Shudup heretic. Stupid half-assed attempts to make X-emacs killed the master's grand vision.
_emacsomancer_ 6y ago
You can already have varying fonts in Emacs. Not quite in a word-processor-like way (thankfully!).
Koshkin 6y ago
I do not understand the want to stick with fixed-width fonts in this day and age. We do not use the editor to punch cards anymore, nor do we type text on a character-cell terminal or a typewriter. With the high-resolution displays, code we write should look more like one that is found in some nice programming books - complete with bold-faced reserved words, italicized comments, and even some mathematical typesetting. This could even (re)open the path to the Holy Grail of literate programming!
- jhardy54 6y ago
  Could you link to some non-monospace font rendering that you find accessible and attractive? In my experience, code in non-monospace fonts are hard to read and is hard to navigate because the letters don't line up.
- dig1 6y ago
  You can do that with many Emacs themes, but have you tried to read those things for a longer time? I like uniform text with minimal highlighting and I know many developers prefer the same - it is much easier for eyes. Some prefer to have a circus of fonts, colors and sizes. YMMV.
- timonoko 6y ago
  In future PyLyx-mode the code is monospace, but comments are assumed to be Tex-formatted. Imagine implementation of some mathematical formula. You can have the description with proper notation. It will be so beautiful that it brings tears to my eyes already.
- kanox 6y ago
  > nor do we type text on a character-cell terminal Yes we do. Command line interfaces are as popular as ever and all terminal emulators rely on a fixed-width fonts.
  - Koshkin 6y ago
    Well, then, the question is, why on Earth we are still emulating ancient character-cell terminals? What purpose does this serve? (I think I just might know the answer: so we could run fixed-width font based text editors in them!)
jpfr 6y ago
He still wants Emacs to become a general-purpose word processor. https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2018-03/msg00089.html https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2018-03/msg00... https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2020-04/msg01255.html https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2020-04/msg01... And not everybody is happy about it. [Careful, flame ahead.] http://ergoemacs.org/misc/rms_emacs_tyrant_2018-03.html http://ergoemacs.org/misc/rms_emacs_tyrant_2018-03.html

This is the first step only. I remember in 1995 Stallman wanted Emacs to be "like Microsoft Word" with varying fonts and other formatting shit with hidden Tex-coding. Do it.

hprotagonist 6y ago

o-org-mode?

marci 6y ago
customized like this https://lepisma.xyz/2017/10/28/ricing-org-mode/ https://lepisma.xyz/2017/10/28/ricing-org-mode/ or like this https://github.com/rougier/elegant-emacs https://github.com/rougier/elegant-emacs
- znpy 6y ago
  > like this https://github.com/rougier/elegant-emacs https://github.com/rougier/elegant-emacs OMG that is beautiful

skocznymroczny 6y ago

So like LyX?

timonoko 6y ago
I guess so. Me no Stallman, but I want standard Emacs with graphical Lyx-mode.
JadeNB 6y ago
Or perhaps TeXmacs? http://texmacs.org/tmweb/home/welcome.en.html http://texmacs.org/tmweb/home/welcome.en.html

Pelic4n 6y ago

Stallman is delusional and his push to make Emacs a WYSIWYG editor almost killed it.

timonoko 6y ago
Shudup heretic. Stupid half-assed attempts to make X-emacs killed the master's grand vision.

_emacsomancer_ 6y ago

You can already have varying fonts in Emacs. Not quite in a word-processor-like way (thankfully!).

Koshkin 6y ago

I do not understand the want to stick with fixed-width fonts in this day and age. We do not use the editor to punch cards anymore, nor do we type text on a character-cell terminal or a typewriter. With the high-resolution displays, code we write should look more like one that is found in some nice programming books - complete with bold-faced reserved words, italicized comments, and even some mathematical typesetting. This could even (re)open the path to the Holy Grail of literate programming!

jhardy54 6y ago
Could you link to some non-monospace font rendering that you find accessible and attractive? In my experience, code in non-monospace fonts are hard to read and is hard to navigate because the letters don't line up.
dig1 6y ago
You can do that with many Emacs themes, but have you tried to read those things for a longer time? I like uniform text with minimal highlighting and I know many developers prefer the same - it is much easier for eyes. Some prefer to have a circus of fonts, colors and sizes. YMMV.
timonoko 6y ago
In future PyLyx-mode the code is monospace, but comments are assumed to be Tex-formatted. Imagine implementation of some mathematical formula. You can have the description with proper notation. It will be so beautiful that it brings tears to my eyes already.
kanox 6y ago
> nor do we type text on a character-cell terminal Yes we do. Command line interfaces are as popular as ever and all terminal emulators rely on a fixed-width fonts.
- Koshkin 6y ago
  Well, then, the question is, why on Earth we are still emulating ancient character-cell terminals? What purpose does this serve? (I think I just might know the answer: so we could run fixed-width font based text editors in them!)

jpfr 6y ago

He still wants Emacs to become a general-purpose word processor. https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2018-03/msg00089.html https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2018-03/msg00... https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2020-04/msg01255.html https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2020-04/msg01... And not everybody is happy about it. [Careful, flame ahead.] http://ergoemacs.org/misc/rms_emacs_tyrant_2018-03.html http://ergoemacs.org/misc/rms_emacs_tyrant_2018-03.html