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> So removing the browser may leave a user unable to bootstrap another browser onto the system (at least once IE is actually gone) without outside help or anoth

by ethbro 6y ago

> So removing the browser may leave a user unable to bootstrap another browser onto the system (at least once IE is actually gone) without outside help or another machine. Invoke-WebRequest 'https://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-latest-ssl&os=win64&lang=en-US' -OutFile firefox-latest.exe

amf12 6y ago
> Invoke-WebRequest 'https://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-latest-ssl&os=win64&lang=en-US' https://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-latest-ssl&os=... -OutFile firefox-latest.exe A majority of Windows users can't be expected to do this. Think of the target demographic which uses Windows.
- true_religion 6y ago
  This could easily be packaged into a shell command by Microsoft and just let regular user click that to reinstall the browser.
jafingi 6y ago
Did you use a browser to get that command? And did you type it by hand, or copy pasting it?
- rootsudo 6y ago
  Powershell. It's like telling normal users "just apt-get."
perlbeatdong 6y ago
Which is a complex string you need to google, as opposed to the cli command that easily uninstalls edge. How will you download this if you just moved out of your mom's house and bought a laptop and a router? How do you set up that router? Displaying a web page is part of the core os. You don't have to use explorer.exe as a file manager either, nor /bin/sh.
- ethbro 6y ago
  Let's not pretend we live in some Stone Age where only our hardlined desktops are able to access the internet.
  - perlbeatdong 6y ago
    Cool, let's not. Let's not pretend I want to to type that long thing from my phone simply because my os doesn't have a web browser. If you want to, no one's stopping you. I want the basic tools included and always working.
    - ethbro 6y ago
      I think we have a very different definition of basic tools.
      - perlbeatdong 6y ago
        I can agree with this. To me, a computer being able to display a website, in 2020, is basic functionality. Something my phone and refrigirator can do is something a full blown computer should be able to do out of the box. For an os that includes basic photo editing software, hypertext editing, video and music players, and game system integration, displaying a webpage is a basic tool. Just like a basic toolset from lowes is expected to have a screwdriver. I think you are defining a computer OS as a basic OS -like TRON on a microwave. It is not -it's a multi-GB platform, and a basic tool included in it is not a basic tool you'd expect from a microwave. But these days, some microwaves also include a browser. Much like airbags are a basic safety feature, but were not 20 years ago. Much like vi was a basic feature. But why include vi, when all you need is ed?
ThePowerOfFuet 6y ago
Those PowerShell commands just kill me.

by ethbro 6y ago

amf12 6y ago

> Invoke-WebRequest 'https://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-latest-ssl&os=win64&lang=en-US' https://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-latest-ssl&os=... -OutFile firefox-latest.exe A majority of Windows users can't be expected to do this. Think of the target demographic which uses Windows.

true_religion 6y ago
This could easily be packaged into a shell command by Microsoft and just let regular user click that to reinstall the browser.

jafingi 6y ago

Did you use a browser to get that command? And did you type it by hand, or copy pasting it?

rootsudo 6y ago
Powershell. It's like telling normal users "just apt-get."

perlbeatdong 6y ago

Which is a complex string you need to google, as opposed to the cli command that easily uninstalls edge. How will you download this if you just moved out of your mom's house and bought a laptop and a router? How do you set up that router? Displaying a web page is part of the core os. You don't have to use explorer.exe as a file manager either, nor /bin/sh.

ethbro 6y ago
Let's not pretend we live in some Stone Age where only our hardlined desktops are able to access the internet.
- perlbeatdong 6y ago
  Cool, let's not. Let's not pretend I want to to type that long thing from my phone simply because my os doesn't have a web browser. If you want to, no one's stopping you. I want the basic tools included and always working.
  - ethbro 6y ago
    I think we have a very different definition of basic tools.
    - perlbeatdong 6y ago
      I can agree with this. To me, a computer being able to display a website, in 2020, is basic functionality. Something my phone and refrigirator can do is something a full blown computer should be able to do out of the box. For an os that includes basic photo editing software, hypertext editing, video and music players, and game system integration, displaying a webpage is a basic tool. Just like a basic toolset from lowes is expected to have a screwdriver. I think you are defining a computer OS as a basic OS -like TRON on a microwave. It is not -it's a multi-GB platform, and a basic tool included in it is not a basic tool you'd expect from a microwave. But these days, some microwaves also include a browser. Much like airbags are a basic safety feature, but were not 20 years ago. Much like vi was a basic feature. But why include vi, when all you need is ed?

ThePowerOfFuet 6y ago

Those PowerShell commands just kill me.