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That excuse by apple (it was so old!) is nonsense; Li-ion batteries should not degrade nearly as quickly as they did during the whole apple-battery saga (less t
by emn13 6y ago
That excuse by apple (it was so old!) is nonsense; Li-ion batteries should not degrade nearly as quickly as they did during the whole apple-battery saga (less than a year to less than half capacity sometimes!) Clearly apple had a design defect (whether in its use of the battery or in the battery itself), and equally clearly apple didn't admit it until the public uproar was significant. The timeline of the whole thing involved a whole series of phones only a little more than a year old, and by that point there had already been a bunch of grumbling online.
Anecdotally, the situation has improved in those I know, but the batteries still degrade more quickly than those in similarly-priced android phones or windows laptops. But perhaps that's just sampling bias.
In any case - the issue is not huge now, but it was a real issue a few years back, and apple tried to cover it up, which pisses me off to this day. Yay for screwing over your customers, and not offering refunds or repairs under reasonable terms until the public outcry is huge: i.e. they certainly will screw you over to cover their collective ass if they can get away with it.
Edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batterygate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batterygate talks of sept/oct 2015 phones and apples dec 2016 response; so: not old phones.
- scarface74 6y agoYou’re comparing the battery degradation of a phone that almost always works disconnected to a battery in a laptop that almost works connected?
- emn13 6y agoIf anything, being constantly connected is a risk factor for batteries, not a boon. If your laptop is constantly connected (mine usually aren't anyhow!), your battery will likely degrade faster due to the interacting effects of higher heat (because laptops run in higher performance modes usually when connected to the grid) and high voltage across the cells (because laptops usually charge to close to 100% when connected). But nowadays we have tons of Li-ion devices; compare to pretty much any. Battery robot mowers, cars, hedge trimmers, roombas, dust devils, home automation stuff, bikes, and of course competing phones. I've never owned even a single device that degraded as quickly as iPhones a few years ago; not one; not even close. And you don't need to take my word for it; Apple eventually admitted the faults, right?