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This didn’t happen to new devices. The throttling was only activated after the battery failed to supply enough power and the phone shut off unintentionally; an

This didn’t happen to new devices. The throttling was only activated after the battery failed to supply enough power and the phone shut off unintentionally; an event that only occurred after years of use.

aaomidi 6y ago
Which was not properly communicated to the user.
emn13 6y ago
You're looking at those memories wearing rose-tinted glasses. The amount of battery degradation was not clear (to this day AFAIK apple has not admitted by how much it typically decayed), but it was enough to be noticeable quickly - in some cases reports of less than half capacity in less than a year. In any case; ref https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batterygate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batterygate - the problem had been swirling online for some time before apple finally responded in December 2016, talking about battery defects in models manufactured in September and October 2015 - i.e. the problem had been bad enough on a large scale to become noticeable for long enough for apple to respond within a little more than a year. Maybe some devices were usable for a full year, but this certainly didn't take years of usage as you suggest. This is not normal, reasonably-designed Li-ion degradation. Likely apple's battery usage patterns were at fault, because heavy load (or charge) under high temperatures causes very quick degradation, and likely the batteries had issues too. Apple's batteries still seem to degrade more quickly than those of other Li-ion devices, so I suspect they're still overusing the battery in circumstances they shouldn't, but it's nothing near as bad as it used to be. Or maybe apple is charging them to a too-high voltage. Who knows? In any case: these issues are not equally strong in any old Li-ion system; design choices matter, and apple's were not only terrible, they also mislead their customers about the issue initially.
- mattigames 6y ago
  Thanks for being a voice of reason around here, the Apple fanboysm around here is sickening, always trying to justify and rationalize every single bad thing Apple does.

aaomidi 6y ago

Which was not properly communicated to the user.

emn13 6y ago

You're looking at those memories wearing rose-tinted glasses. The amount of battery degradation was not clear (to this day AFAIK apple has not admitted by how much it typically decayed), but it was enough to be noticeable quickly - in some cases reports of less than half capacity in less than a year. In any case; ref https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batterygate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batterygate - the problem had been swirling online for some time before apple finally responded in December 2016, talking about battery defects in models manufactured in September and October 2015 - i.e. the problem had been bad enough on a large scale to become noticeable for long enough for apple to respond within a little more than a year. Maybe some devices were usable for a full year, but this certainly didn't take years of usage as you suggest. This is not normal, reasonably-designed Li-ion degradation. Likely apple's battery usage patterns were at fault, because heavy load (or charge) under high temperatures causes very quick degradation, and likely the batteries had issues too. Apple's batteries still seem to degrade more quickly than those of other Li-ion devices, so I suspect they're still overusing the battery in circumstances they shouldn't, but it's nothing near as bad as it used to be. Or maybe apple is charging them to a too-high voltage. Who knows? In any case: these issues are not equally strong in any old Li-ion system; design choices matter, and apple's were not only terrible, they also mislead their customers about the issue initially.

mattigames 6y ago
Thanks for being a voice of reason around here, the Apple fanboysm around here is sickening, always trying to justify and rationalize every single bad thing Apple does.