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I’m not sure why you’re being downvoted, but yes, as a society if we find that we are over-using resources, we should cut out those foods. We seem to value a hu

by duhuh 6y ago

I’m not sure why you’re being downvoted, but yes, as a society if we find that we are over-using resources, we should cut out those foods. We seem to value a human population numbered in the billions. Some foods won’t work for that population.

rdtwo 6y ago
I don’t really see us worrying about food scarcity any time soon. We still burn the bulk of our corn as gas until that changes I see no issue with calorie shortages
- blix 6y ago
  As someone with dietary restrictions that prevent me from eating corn (among many other things), I do not find this argument very comforting.
- duhuh 6y ago
  This is a thread about worrying about seafood scarcity already. Not-anytime-soon has arrived on a food-by-food basis. In the case of seafood, it’s an entire food group!
  - bserge 6y ago
    Tbf, seafood is a special category, as most of it can not be farmed (not efficiently, at least), so capturing it from the wild is the easiest, and often only, solution.
    - duhuh 6y ago
      It is as special as a canary in a coal mine I suppose
tempsolution 6y ago
Yeah an interesting way of looking at things... Let's just multiply into the trillions and see what's left. I mean once you get to a trillion, you need to ration your food and cut the ones that are not sustainable, right? Ever thought about cutting the amount of people living on the planet to reasonable levels? But that would be obviously immoral, right? (Note: You wouldn't even have to kill anyone, the human lifespan will do that for you if you prevent people having more than one child on average)
ido66667 6y ago
You know, it seems silly to me that the choice we seem to make is rather than controlling our population, we choose having worse lives for us and all future generations. Lack of self-control will truly be the end of humanity.
- Stupulous 6y ago
  I think population control is expected to happen automatically in the next 50 years. It doesn't feel like a profitable area to direct activism.
- wonderwonder 6y ago
  Generally as a nation builds wealth its birthrate slows. We cannot allow a state to control it though as the issue becomes how do you control population size, who gets to have kids and who gets to decide. This is pretty much the be all and end all of government power. Do we force sterilize people? Force abortions? If we fine them then the rich have as many kids as they want. Government mandated population control cannot be the answer.

by duhuh 6y ago

rdtwo 6y ago

I don’t really see us worrying about food scarcity any time soon. We still burn the bulk of our corn as gas until that changes I see no issue with calorie shortages

blix 6y ago
As someone with dietary restrictions that prevent me from eating corn (among many other things), I do not find this argument very comforting.
duhuh 6y ago
This is a thread about worrying about seafood scarcity already. Not-anytime-soon has arrived on a food-by-food basis. In the case of seafood, it’s an entire food group!
- bserge 6y ago
  Tbf, seafood is a special category, as most of it can not be farmed (not efficiently, at least), so capturing it from the wild is the easiest, and often only, solution.
  - duhuh 6y ago
    It is as special as a canary in a coal mine I suppose

tempsolution 6y ago

Yeah an interesting way of looking at things... Let's just multiply into the trillions and see what's left. I mean once you get to a trillion, you need to ration your food and cut the ones that are not sustainable, right? Ever thought about cutting the amount of people living on the planet to reasonable levels? But that would be obviously immoral, right? (Note: You wouldn't even have to kill anyone, the human lifespan will do that for you if you prevent people having more than one child on average)

ido66667 6y ago

You know, it seems silly to me that the choice we seem to make is rather than controlling our population, we choose having worse lives for us and all future generations. Lack of self-control will truly be the end of humanity.

Stupulous 6y ago
I think population control is expected to happen automatically in the next 50 years. It doesn't feel like a profitable area to direct activism.
wonderwonder 6y ago
Generally as a nation builds wealth its birthrate slows. We cannot allow a state to control it though as the issue becomes how do you control population size, who gets to have kids and who gets to decide. This is pretty much the be all and end all of government power. Do we force sterilize people? Force abortions? If we fine them then the rich have as many kids as they want. Government mandated population control cannot be the answer.