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Nice idea, it would be interesting if you could integrate the wayback machine so it archives the webpage you add. That way even if the original page gets delete
by clashmeifyoucan 6y ago
Nice idea, it would be interesting if you could integrate the wayback machine so it archives the webpage you add. That way even if the original page gets deleted, a snapshot will be permanently archived.
- masukomi 6y agoa) it does better > If you add bookmarks, their webpages contents' will be saved to ensure that you will always have access to it b) It's not inline with the idea of archiving things you care about. If you don't control it you can't rely on it. You definitely can't rely on wayback machine to always exist. Someone's got to keep paying for those servers and it's not a huge profit center, and there have been questions regarding its survival before because of lack of money.
- clashmeifyoucan 6y ago> a) it does better that's not very interesting because when I find an interesting read I rarely bookmark it. For me bookmarks are links that I visit often. > b) that is a fair point, however I think the wayback way is still not too shabby an idea. It ensures there's a copy snapshotted just in case, and yes it might not last forever but it's done a fantastic job so far so not trusting it now just because it'll not survive sounds a minor risk imho.
- homarp 6y agoit's not "browser" bookmark. It's "add a bookmark" into the app see https://github.com/Uzay-G/archivy/blob/master/main/templates/bookmarks/new.html https://github.com/Uzay-G/archivy/blob/master/main/templates... it's just a form where you paste the URL of the site you're interested.
- masukomi 6y agoso? I don't understand why this is a meaningful statement. Lots of us use Pinboard.in or similar "bookmark" services. They aren't "Browser bookmarks" they're just forms in some separate app too. We find them more useful than browser bookmarks. The pasting can easily be worked around with a simple bookmarklet. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.
- homarp 6y agoclashmeifyoucan was saying "For me bookmarks are links that I visit often" which I interpreted as "browser bookmark". When I read the description of Archivy, I had the same impression (it somehow captures the action of bookmarking). So I looked at the code to see how it was done, and in fact, as you said, it's more like a local pinboard/similar "bookmark" services. No real point to make, just clarify what 'bookmark' it was.
- keyb0ardninja 6y agoWhile I greatly appreciate that it saves it locally, which I consider essential, but saving it to wayback machine serves a different purpose: In case of a dispute with another party, you can resolve the claim about the state of a particular webpage using the wayback machine.
- masukomi 6y agoif you're concerned about legal proof, then again, relying on a third party service with questionable financials is a terrible idea. This is plaintext markdown files. You can easily integrate git with it which will provide a timestamp and cryptographic proof that the contents are unchanged.
- input_sh 6y agoI just use one of many article parsers and save things in Markdown files, providing me with a local snapshot.
- nikisweeting 6y agoYeah I recommend this approach, it's what ArchiveBox does as well.