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I have to agree, Apple when it comes to updates and how long they support devices do put Android offering to shame.

by Zenst 6y ago

levosmetalo 6y ago
Well, for that money you can buy multiple Android phones and never ever run a two year old phone anymore.
- hodder 6y ago
  Flagship? No. If you want an iphone level phone it basically costs you iphone level dollars whether you want Android or an iphone. Of course you can buy a cheap phone, but for a 1K phone I expect support for more than 3 years or I wont buy it. That is one thing keeping me from switching back to Android. I likely never will with the preloaded crapware and lack of support.
  - scarface74 6y ago
    If you want iPhone level performance - even that of a $399 SE, you can’t find it an Android at any cost....
- joking 6y ago
  Would you buy a chevrolet spark every year, Or a camaro and maintain it during 4 years?
  - Yetanfou 6y ago
    I'd buy a Skoda, VW and a Toyota and maintain them for at least 10 years. The Skoda is the Xiaomi Redmi 5, the VW is the Motorola Defy and the Toyota is the Samsung SIII. They vary in age between 2 (Xiaomi), 8 (Samsung) and almost 10 years (Motorola), 2 of them (Xiaomi and Samsung) run the latest version of Android, the Motorola is stuck at Android 4.4 due to a locked bootloader. All of them work fine. Buying the 3 of them costs less than buying a single iPhone. They last longer than any iPhone due to the possibility to update the OS as long as there are developers working on the device. The 8yo Samsung gets weekly OTA updates (which I do not always install...).
- emsy 6y ago
  Sure, our children will thank us for creating a rotting pile of perfectly working devices because the manufacturer can’t be bothered to upgrade the software.
- GeekyBear 6y ago
  The original iPhone SE which sold for for $399 is starting it's sixth year of OS and security updates. That's less than $70 per supported year.
cma 6y ago
After updating a brand new ipad from 12.x to ipad os 13, Safari tabs started crashing all the time. I got a replacement unit and it did the same thing. Tried out ipad os 14 and the whole device reboots frequently, usually if a tab plays any kind of video. On their bug reporting app, switching apps while having a bug report half filled-in in order to e.g. check which URL caused a recent crash, will immediately throw the bug reporting app out of memory and lose your half-entered bug report. Updates within months of getting a brand new device (on the low end RAM-wise), seem to have completely ruined it. People have told me to buy one with more RAM and most issues would be resolved, but I don't want to throw in more money for uncertainty.
- jooize 6y ago
  I have made a couple of bug reports regarding Feedback Assistant losing my report. I don't understand why immortalizing user input isn't a higher priority in general. I no longer trust that iOS devices will not suddenly lose unsaved content. Apple has failed me with its memory management on both iPhone X and iPhone 7 with iOS 13 (and earlier), so I refute that spending more money will solve it, though it may help.

I have to agree, Apple when it comes to updates and how long they support devices do put Android offering to shame.

by Zenst 6y ago

I have to agree, Apple when it comes to updates and how long they support devices do put Android offering to shame.

levosmetalo 6y ago

Well, for that money you can buy multiple Android phones and never ever run a two year old phone anymore.

hodder 6y ago
Flagship? No. If you want an iphone level phone it basically costs you iphone level dollars whether you want Android or an iphone. Of course you can buy a cheap phone, but for a 1K phone I expect support for more than 3 years or I wont buy it. That is one thing keeping me from switching back to Android. I likely never will with the preloaded crapware and lack of support.
- scarface74 6y ago
  If you want iPhone level performance - even that of a $399 SE, you can’t find it an Android at any cost....
joking 6y ago
Would you buy a chevrolet spark every year, Or a camaro and maintain it during 4 years?
- Yetanfou 6y ago
  I'd buy a Skoda, VW and a Toyota and maintain them for at least 10 years. The Skoda is the Xiaomi Redmi 5, the VW is the Motorola Defy and the Toyota is the Samsung SIII. They vary in age between 2 (Xiaomi), 8 (Samsung) and almost 10 years (Motorola), 2 of them (Xiaomi and Samsung) run the latest version of Android, the Motorola is stuck at Android 4.4 due to a locked bootloader. All of them work fine. Buying the 3 of them costs less than buying a single iPhone. They last longer than any iPhone due to the possibility to update the OS as long as there are developers working on the device. The 8yo Samsung gets weekly OTA updates (which I do not always install...).
emsy 6y ago
Sure, our children will thank us for creating a rotting pile of perfectly working devices because the manufacturer can’t be bothered to upgrade the software.
GeekyBear 6y ago
The original iPhone SE which sold for for $399 is starting it's sixth year of OS and security updates. That's less than $70 per supported year.

cma 6y ago

After updating a brand new ipad from 12.x to ipad os 13, Safari tabs started crashing all the time. I got a replacement unit and it did the same thing. Tried out ipad os 14 and the whole device reboots frequently, usually if a tab plays any kind of video. On their bug reporting app, switching apps while having a bug report half filled-in in order to e.g. check which URL caused a recent crash, will immediately throw the bug reporting app out of memory and lose your half-entered bug report. Updates within months of getting a brand new device (on the low end RAM-wise), seem to have completely ruined it. People have told me to buy one with more RAM and most issues would be resolved, but I don't want to throw in more money for uncertainty.

jooize 6y ago
I have made a couple of bug reports regarding Feedback Assistant losing my report. I don't understand why immortalizing user input isn't a higher priority in general. I no longer trust that iOS devices will not suddenly lose unsaved content. Apple has failed me with its memory management on both iPhone X and iPhone 7 with iOS 13 (and earlier), so I refute that spending more money will solve it, though it may help.