Well, I don't really know what to tell you. People are probably just thinking of it in the holiday context. If they aren't specifying the year, then that's prob

Well, I don't really know what to tell you. People are probably just thinking of it in the holiday context. If they aren't specifying the year, then that's probably why. Maybe try "what's the exact date including year of US independence". They'll most likely say "July 4th, 1776'. > Non-US people don’t like it because it’s (a) different K. Well, respect different cultures. In the US we like to do it this way because that's how we say it. > and (b) illogical Who cares besides Europeans with nothing better to do with their vacation time? Humans aren't computers.